and valerie -- valerie williams is somebody who can -- >> valerie holmes. >> that's her. that's her. >> valerie grayholmes. at the end of our program she has more people outside waiting in lines to talk with her about not 18th century issues, but about current issues. i hope that there are more characters created in the african-american program staff here that allow audiences to connect, to make connections that are not just 18th century connections but that are human to human connections. i know richard did that, i know i did that, i know christy did that, so there are so many ways that if you just take the leap you can talk with interpreters who, number one, have been trained enough to understand and know the history, but number two, want to in many ways talk with people who are interested in hearing more than a monologue, more than a few minutes, but want to hear more about the experiences of the 18th century as well as contemporary experiences as well. so i suggest that as you run into those characters that you take advantage of knowing them and delving deeply into the rich history that they hav