william h. macy and me and joe mountain ya and william peterson and dennis franz, we were all kids in chicago, 22 years old, and we had our own theater company. we didn't know any better. we made it up as we went along. but kids nowadays, i think we're doing that on the internet and twitting, you know, whatever the hell they do, but they study the theater and award it for doing the theater in universities which are all the liberal arts universities are completely democratic. and so the kids rather than having the experience of the free market which me and macy and billy peterson, franz had, you've got to please the audience, or they're not coming back together. we had the fortunate experience of growing up trying to please the teacher, right? and that's not theater. and so they grow up because that's where the play wrights come from, and ask then they come to new york, and you have your pick of aflick play, you know? -- affliction plays. who's going to be in the barrel this season because we can come