peter hotez and professor william haseltine. r haseltine, is it becoming more evident at least in the united states to go back to a semblance of pre-covid life is for a vaccine? is that the only hope? >> well, i hope it's not the only hope. i think, behavior change, by most people, is the actual answer. but there are two solutions from the medical world. one is a vaccine that everybody's talking about. in my opinion, it's going to come. but it will be partially effective, and we don't know for how long it will last. there is another solution, which is coming very quickly, which is a bridge to an effective vaccine. and, that is, the use of combinations of antiviral drugs to suppress the virus, and to protect people from being infected in the first place. we know that works for another virus that affects, in this case, instance, children. we know that it works to malaria. and so, we are very hopeful. we actually know and have the drugs and the model for this is hiv. we've developed drugs, and there's some spectacular, new drugs on

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professor william haseltine. you know, sanjay, interesting here because you -- even with the president being intransigent, right, on this problem. you are hearing slightly different messaging coming from folks in the administration. acknowledging the increase in cases is not just about increased testing. he's talking about positivity going up, which is a fact. and even the president, now, saying he doesn't oppose masks, at least. do you see the slightest move of recognition there from the white house and the administration on the scope of this problem right now? >> yes. and i think that you're seeing some of that. for example, in texas. with the governor talking about now, you know, mandating the masks as well. i think, jim, the thing about it is i think you could predict, at this point, even in florida they'll come around at some point. i think it's become a question of what's it going to take? how much are they willing to tolerate, before they go ahead and do what everybody knows needs to be done? that's the th

joining us now to discuss, william haseltine, school professor. what do you make of the fact that today the surgeon general said everybody should wear masks in public but refused to say whether americans should or should not attend large gatherings when others, like dr. fauci, have been saying clearly you should avoid large gatherings? what do you make of this mixed message? >> i think from the very beginning in this epidemic there have been mixed messages. what you need in a crisis is you need clear, consistent, compassionate and credible messaging from our leaders. and we in this country haven't had that. we've had mixed messages. in addition to that, the surgeon general has not appeared. we need an organization that has manpower on the ground that can take federal regulations and implement them systemically throughout the country. it is a big failing. i hope we are learning from it. but now that we're in this situation, it's up to each individual to make their determination. that's what it's come down to. are you going to protect your family? a

william haseltine. i think we got him back. i just want to get you one more question. thank you for your forbearance, doctor. this has been politicized. that is not debatable. you just heard the yahoo from texas, lieutenant governor, saying he's not listening to fauci. the idea of heading into july 4th weekend and the message the president may send, by going to south dakota to be in the presence of rushmore and have people not socially distanced and masks optional, at an event like that, how powerful is that message? >> well, let me just give you a idea of how i give my friends advice, who ask me about a barbecue. something very simple. a barbecue. i say, fine, have a barbecue outside. because it's much safer to be outside. do not go inside. if it rains, don't go inside. go home. magnify that small piece of advice by a huge crowd of 30,000 people or more gathering on the fourth of july, with or without masks, is a very dangerous situation. if you're going to be worried about a barbecue at home with friends, and you don't go inside because you might infect one another.

. >> joining us now, cnn political analyst, david gregory and william haseltine.fessor, haseltine, i want to start with you. yes, the president used different words than he has before on the status of the pandemic, saying it's going to get worse before it gets better. he used his least ambiguous language yet on masks and that's a good thing. but the admission you just heard there that the administration is in the process of formulating a strategy and it's going to be great, why the wait? >> well, we know what the strategy has been. it's been to, in his own words, ride the sucker through. it's a dramatic underestimate of the power of this virus. and to wait for a vane accine a for a drug. we know that's not going to come soon enough for schools opening and soon enough for a lot of people. we've heard a lot of the vaccine experts yesterday talk about maybe in september. well, ken fraser, the head of merck, has called that irresponsible. that is not what people should be talking about, because they're underestimating, in my opinion, this virus. we cannot underestimat

responses may start to decline within a month from the time covid-19 symptoms first emerged says william haseltine president of access health international other 2 studies. >>one the spain and one from the uk that actually majors a virus in people and why the antibodies and watch the immunity decline. that's what we're afraid of in one of the studies released on a medical server and not yet peer reviewed the researchers say those who have a severe form of covid-19 may have longer lasting anti-body than those with mild cases, but it's still only a matter of months before those antibodies wayne they say the study has important implications when considering protection against the infection and the durability of vaccine. but other experts point out we don't know for sure whether people can get re infected with coronavirus. >>if it were true that the antibodies and protection were only lasting 20 to 30 days. i think we would have start to started to see some significant amounts of reinfection we haven't. >>i'm mandy gaither. >>well the giants finally opened their major league season last night in los a

joining me now is william haseltine, the former professor at harvard medical school. it has? is that a done deal. welcome, by the way. >> it is. thank you very much. it definitely is spreading. i've just been looking at the numbers in states like nebraska, kansas, michigan, illinois. that's our heartland. and the numbers are going up. >> president trump referring again to the virus as the china virus and saying other countries are having coronavirus spikes, too. you say that despite what he says, this is now the american virus. >> this is becoming the american virus, there's no doubt about it. you know, i wish we'd stop fighting with china and start learning from how they control it. i'll give you a number to think about. more -- twice as many americans have died from this december as chinese have gotten the disease. they have 0.3% of our deaths. and our infections. 0.3%. and they're a country four times bigger than us. we could go to school and learn how to control this virus without a test, without a drug, and without a vaccine. it can be done. i wish we could do it

william haseltine gave this dire assessment of our efforts to fight the pandemic. watch. >> herd immunity is a fantasy. it does not exist for these viruses. it's a fantasy and a dangerous fantasy. even at best. perhaps millions of people died. are we really that far back to the preantibiotic era? >> laura: dr. smith, i think we have you. what is he talking about? no herd immunity. it's worthless? >> there's a lot that we can do. [indistinct] >> laura: we have a lousy connection. hold on. we have allows a connection. i don't know what is going on at your house. maybe a rain, maybe lightning. doctor, the trashing of herd immunity, even the president is kind of pooh-poohed of time. the herd. i love that box. >> i think it's a mistake to trash it. the reality is that the mechanism by which all vaccines work. it's the way we've gone through and conquered prior pandemics and epidemics. herd immunity is real and it's already occurring as we speak. since memorial day, we have seen people get out and about. we have seen a rise in positive tests. but as you've seen, people a

. >> william haseltine, thank you so much. i appreciate it. he says he does not need to wear a mask, but republican congressman louie gohmert has now just tested positive. >>> then, president trump has talked to vladimir putin multiple times in the past few months, seven times. but he has not brought up something that may have cost american lives. he just admitted it. stay with us. how does the world reopen for business? to return to the workplace, safely, companies will need the right tools. that's why salesforce created work.com it's an all-new suite of apps, expertise, and services. to manage this crisis today, and thrive tomorrow. everything companies need to return to the workplace. let's reopen. safely. how abowhat a shame.wilson? so soon after retiring. i hear his wife needed help with the funeral expenses. that's ridiculous! -he had social security. -when my brother died, his wife received a check from social security, all right-- for $255! the funeral costs were well over $8,000. how on earth did she pay for it? fortunately, my brothe

let's discuss now from former harvard medical school professor william haseltine. he is the author of a new ebook, it's called a family guide to covid. and it is much needed. so, doctor -- professor, i should say, thank you so much for joining. you talk in the ebook about how virus transmits in children. the virus transmits in children. now, researchers in south korea have found that children between the ages of 10 and 19 can transmit the virus, just as much as adults. and that children 9 and under transmit the virus at a lower rate. what does that mean, though, for reopening schools? >> well, i think that every parent knows about cold viruses. and this is a cold virus, with a very bad habit. we know, if you send your kids to school, they come back with colds. and they give those colds to you. that's exactly what happens with this virus, too. and what the korean study shows is, yes, kids 9 to 19 spread the virus, like adults. but kids a little bit younger don't spread it so rapidly. but the catch there is they have three times as many contacts. as the older people.

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let's bring in now, william haseltine and ron klain, who coordinated the ebola response in the obama white house. it's so good to have both of you on. professor haseltine, let me start with you. cases are rising in 39 states. you say the united states could end up going beyond dr. fauci's warning of 100,000 cases in a day. tell -- tell us why you say that, why you believe that. >> well, if you look out, you see an epidemic, out of control. we thought we might have reached a plateau, and now we are climbing a very steep mountain, at a rate which is frightening to all of us. we don't know where that will end. we know these viruses have the capability to infect most of the population. even under the worst -- the -- the scenario that you can imagine. you could have 200,000 a day. you could have 500,000 a day. there is no real limit, until you hit about half of our population or more. whether a that means, if we really let it go. if we do what they say, just ride that sucker through, we are talking about 5 million dead americans, and 10 to 20 permanently injured americans. that's what we

. >> now, i want to bring in willi william haseltine, former professor at harvard medical school. thank you for joining. i appreciate it. so we're hearing two different messages from president trump and dr. fauci. listen to this, please. >> well, i think we are in a good place. >> we're facing a serious problem now. >> we're almost up to 40 million in testing. and 40 million people. which is unheard of. >> this is the thing that is a little bit concerning. say, well, we now have 37 million tests have been performed. the question is, when you get on the phone and talk to the people in the community, there are still lapses there where the dots are not being connected. >> if you look at the chart of deaths, deaths are way down. >> it's a false narrative to take comfort in a lower rate of death. >> so my question is how worried are you that dr. fauci -- he is the expert in all of this -- that he buwasn't at today's briefing and that the president is openly disagreeing with him? >> i've worked with dr. fauci for 30 years. and during the aids epidemic, worked with him very, very closely

william haseltine, the chairman and president of access health international is joining us and the director of the vaccine education center at children's hospital of philadelphia also with us. dr. offet, for the first time in a few weeks, the u.s. now reporting more than a thousand deaths in one day that was yesterday. we're approaching a hospitalization rate not seen since the peak of the pandemic here in the u.s. give us your overall assessment of where pe stand right now in this fight against this deadly virus. >> well, right now we're losing. i think the only way we're going to be able to stop the spread of this virus is with a successful vaccine. and i'm optimistic that we can make a successful vaccine and have one available as early as the beginning of next year. what worries me is that there will be pressure with an upcoming election to put a vaccine out there before we've adequately tested it in phase three trials. we've been doing so much research that really frankly involved about 15 patients in one study, about ten patients in another study. and that's not enough. we're going rig

william haseltine. he is former professor at harvard medical school and chair at access health international. good evening, doctor. i'm happy to see you here today. >> happy to see you, too. >> well, the u.s. has seen more than a thousand deaths, for four separate days, in a row. and we haven't seen those kind of numbers since -- since may, frankly. so what does this tell you about where we are, right now, in the fight against this virus? >> well, a thousand people dead, a day, is close to one a minute. and i think that's what americans should start thinking about. instead of sending paramilitary troops to our city, he should be sending medical aid, doctors. we should be getting our public health system together. we should be doing what ever we can to help those cities that are in trouble. yes, our cities are in trouble because they're dying of covid. >> dr. haseltine, in places like the eu, the uk, canada, i mean, they have all seemingly been able to control this virus. i mean, look at this graph here.

also, former professor william haseltine. author of "a family guide to covid, questions and answers for parents, grandparents, and children." maggie, there's certainly been a shift in how the president's approaching the pandemic. or at least, there has been, lately. today, instead of talking about the almost 150,000 dead in this country or outlining a strategy to fight, he boasts about the number of textsts as usual. is the president's plan, going forward, just continue, everything's going great while so many people continue to die? i mean, is there actually going to be some sort of a new plan? >> look, anderson, i think you've hit on what the issue is, which is that the white house, in many respects, is treating this, at least in terms of how the president approaches it, as a messaging challenge. not as a -- as a public health challenge. and something they need to have him address the specifics of. they are treating him almost lie a -- like a spokesman. like, he goes out and he talks about the positive news to try to sell a

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joining us now is william haseltine, former professor at harvard medical school.ssor haseltine, always a pleasure to have you with us. what would it take or what will it take to keep those yellow states and cities, these are big cities, columbus, ohio, i'll have the mayor on in a short period of time, what will it take from them to keep from getting to red. to keep from getting to be in a crisis situation? >> well, the first thing to say is it is approaching a crisis. that if you look at the numbers, and i check them very often, you can see, let's take tennessee, for example. two months ago, there were about 400 people infected on a daily basis. a month ago, it was about 1,400. this month, at this time of the month, it's about 2,500. and it's continuing to rise. that's emblematic of what's happening in that region. what can we do? there are a few things that can be done right away. leadership in that state can insist upon mask wearing, can close bars, can make sure that people don't congregate in large numbers. and that's the first thing they can do. second thing

responses may start to decline within a month from the time covid-19 symptoms first emerged says william haseltineresident of access health international other 2 studies. >>one the spain and one from the uk that actually majors a virus in people and why the antibodies and watch the immunity decline. that's what we're afraid of in one of the studies released on a medical server and not yet peer reviewed the researchers say those who have a severe form of covid-19 may have longer lasting anti-body than those with mild cases, but it's still only a matter of months before those antibodies wayne say the study has important implications when considering protection against the infection and the durability of vaccine. but other experts point out we don't know for sure whether people can get re infected with coronavirus. >>if it were true that the antibodies and protection were only lasting 20 to 30 days. i think we would have start to started to see some significant amounts of reinfection we haven't. >>i'm mandy gaither. >>high temperatures across the bay today, we're looking at to call numbers around the

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also with us, william haseltine, chair and president of access health international. great to have both of you. dr. reiner, i want to start with what i see as a great illustration of the polar opposite ends that some governors are approaching this versus dr. deborah birx. so, dr. deborah birx tried to sound the alarm about what is about to happen in tennessee. she believes we are on the cusp of seeing exploding exponential growth there, whereby numbers would double every day. so, here is the warning that she sounded yesterday. >> it is this very moment where we can change the trajectory of the epidemic, before it goes into full what we call logrhythmic spread, as we have seen across the south. and we have found that if you all wear masks, all tennesseeans, in every public area, and you protect the individuals with co-morbidities, if you stop going to bars, and indeed, close the bars, we can have as big an impact on decreasing new cases. >> and i'll just quote to you what the governor said in the interest of time. he said, "we are not going to close the economy back do

also, william haseltine, former harvard researcher and recent author of "a family guide to covid, questions, and answers". >> still no plan from president trump and the federal government. i mean, does -- i mean, we have had this conversation over and over again. and with good professor haseltine as well. but without federal engagement, i mean, you know, professor haseltine in the past has said the answer is each of us doing all we can. citizens and -- and everybody else, stakeholders, being involved. but, without federal government, does this get better? >> i think it's -- it's very hard for it to get better. clearly, the status quo is not working, anderson. the numbers continue to get worse. i think what we're seeing, now, is we're seeing a pattern. the reason that the federal sort of guidance is so important is because what happens in so many communities now, and states, is that things get into a real crisis situation before action is taken. i mean, people know what to do. the public health sort of strategy is actually not that complicated here. we've seen it work in certain states in th