confrontation with indians during the war of 1812 was the battle of the tems which is a battle that william henderson whose glory from that battle and another one proper pelled him to the white house in 1840. harris confederacy leader tecumseh at the battle of the thames. it's a decisive win for the united states. and it leads to the death of tecumseh and, therefore, to the shattering of the shawnee confederacy. that's a crucial turning moment in terms of indian relations during the war. >> you talked about the rapid expansion of the u.s., the seven states within several short years after the war. was that a specific program on the part of the federal government to expand or waits just the need for more land? >> well, it's both. and what's quite extraordinary is how very self-conscious people were about thinking about how the rights and needs and desires of the individual could reinforce the needs of the nation. so there is the petition, for example, in illinois of people who want to move into the illinois territory and see illinois become a state, which it does become a state immediately after the w

science at the university of tehran in jerusalem we have dan williams senior correspondent at reuters and in stanford we cross to david henderson he's a research fellow with the hoover institution right gentlemen cross-talk rosen a fact that means you can jump in any time you want they would if i go to you first in stanford because you got up early as for the program was this where these negotiations seriously think when we where as we're recording this program right now we're still waiting for the press conference but there hasn't been any kind of optimistic words coming out. i'm not sure whether they're serious i'm not there i'm not in the room i'm kind of doubtful that they were serious because i think various organizations have their agendas and i saw you know i don't think they were particularly serious then what do you think were going through this process who achieves what by just going through the the motion i think it. again i'm not in the room but i'm guessing it's a kind of a show and the idea is that a lot of people especially the israeli government want to you know want to potentially make war on iran and so they'v

williams, i have a couple of questions, in light of the rulings on the other witnesses. do i understand that you will not -- obviously, you will not have any need to cross-examine paul henderson. do you have any need to cross- examine wendy still? vicki hennessy? richard danielle? i guess we are waiting on exhibit 4. are you going to be challenging the chain of custody of the video, or anything like that? >> no. chairperson hur: no need to cross-examine? >> correct. chairperson hur: that is helpful. thank you. >> i thought i put this in an e- mail. it is possible not everybody got it. chairperson hur: you did? i may have missed it. thank you. the other thing i wanted to ask was about christine florence -- florez. there was potentially a loophole in the order. we did not request objections to testimony. we did not receive any objections to the transcript. does that mean you are not checked into the -- objecting to the testimony submitted with respect to ms. flores? >> i may have misunderstood. i think i made clear our objections at the last hearing, that we would continue to maintain an objection to her testimony as being not relevant to the issues, given the fact that the she