of his cabinet and people have often referred to the experience of abraham lincoln picking william henry seward. >> i think that in many ways the policies that president obama and i talked about during the campaign were maybe difference in degree, not kind. we have a world view that says america should be leading by example, not the -- i think my husband said actually, not the example of our power but the power of our example that we want to convey. and so when the president asked know consider this, i was personally very surprised. and i became more surprised when accounts of the campaign came out and said he had been thinking about it for some time. but i also believed that what i brought to the job, the real commitment that i had to being not just effective, but being part of a team that is effective, which the president knows, we served in the senate together, has really worked out better than anybody could have predicted. i think our personal relationship has certainly deepened and broadened over the course of the last six and a half months, the time we spend together, the difficult proble