let me turn to william hubbard. we will turn from the english side to the american side to as a mentioned, you were in england last year connecting kellen's interviews. you were interviewed by bbc. they asked you questions about magna carta. they asked you questions about scoring magna carta and the u.s. constitution with the detention practices at guantanamo. what did you tell bbc? william: yes, they did. the reporters were quite crafty and were well prepared for the various and reviews -- various interviews. as a general proposition, i engaged in a discussion about, you know, we have these words on a document and we have courts and lawyers have to argue about what are the limits. how do you apply this particular document to specific facts question mark and that is why we have a court system to make those determinations. and fact, there have been four cases since 9/11 that deal with detainee rights that have been decided by the u.s. supreme court. in all for those cases, the court has held for the detainees good an

you so much.nk we will turn to the american side to william hubbard. you were in england last year conducting countless interviews thingssiding over the there. as i recall, they ask you questions about squaring the magna carta are into the u.s. constitution with the detention practices at guantanamo. >> it they did. the reporters there are quite welly and insightful and prepared for the interviews. one question in particular was the issue of detainee rights and how you square that with magna carta. as a general discussion, i frame did as you know, we have these words on a document and we have courts and lawyers have to argue about what are the limits. how do you apply this particular document to specific facts that is why we have a court system to make those determinations. and fact, there have been four cases since 9/11 that deal with detainee rights that have been decided by the u.s. supreme court. in all four of those cases, the court has held for the detainees and into other cases, the magna carta was cited as authority. in the case versus rumsfeld

let me turn to william hubbard. we will turn from the english side to the american side to as a mentioned, you were in england last year connecting kellen's interviews. you were interviewed by bbc. they asked you questions about magna carta. aboutsked you questions scoring magna carta and the u.s. constitution with the detention practices at guantanamo. what did you tell bbc? william: yes, they did. the reporters were quite crafty and were well prepared for the various and reviews -- various interviews. as a general proposition, i engaged in a discussion about, you know, we have these words on a document and we have courts and lawyers have to argue about what are the limits. how do you apply this particular document to specific facts question mark and that is why we have a court system to make those determinations. and fact, there have been four cases since 9/11 that deal with detainee rights that have been decided by the u.s. supreme court. in all for those cases, the court has held for the detainees good and into

let return to william hubbard who will turn some of the english side to the american side and as i've mentioned you were in england last year conducting countless interviews and presiding over the proceedings there. you were interviewed by bdc, matthew lessons about magna carta and as i recall they ask you questions about squaring magna carta and the u.s. constitution with the detention practices at >> they did. the reporters there are quite crafty and insightful and were well prepared for all of the various interviews. one question in particular was the issue of the detainee rights and how to square that with magna carta. the general proposition engaged in a discussion about , we have these words on the document and we have courts and lawyers have to argue about what are the limits, how you apply this particular document to a specific set of facts and that's why we have a court system to make those determinations.in fact there have been four cases since 9/11 that deal with rights that have been decided by the us supreme court and in all four of those cases, the court has held for the

doing i think a thesis on tom wolfe so a man of many parts.the other panelists this morning, william hubbard known to many you as the past president of the american bar association from columbia south carolina. he is an honorary venture of middle temple in london and last year the 800th anniversary year he was in london presiding at the rededication of the american bar association's memorial at runnymede, the memorial to the magna carta and presided over the apa london meeting attracted something like 1000 americans to england. this morning we plan to divide our presentation into two major parts of about equal length. first, i would like to undertake a sketch of magna carta . it's the 800 years, what were its origins, how did it survive, how did it manage to get across the atlantic to america? what does it mean today? and then the second major part of the program will turn to a discussion of first david hunt then william hubbard giving you some sense of the contemporary modern applications of magna carta. when it comes to our own time. first, a few words, a little background, a little histor

and if we wanted to try the patience of the audience we would walk through all 63 of them and william hubbard would find a supreme court case relevant to each when of those. we don't have time. let me make one last observation. what about the copies of the magna carter? itself the document first came ago, 1215.0 years there are 17 extent copies of a.e magna carter -- cart there are four copies of the original charter. libraryin the british and one is at the lincoln cathedral and one at the cells very cathedral. anothern australia and is in the national archives in washington. ross perot heard that a family in england owned a copy of the 1297 charter and he had pretty much everything else so he decided he could use a copy of so he sent ata lawyer over to bargain and purchase that copy. that was purchased at the cost of $1.5 million. for ross perot that may be pocket change. that copy was then in his ownership until fairly recently when he decided he did not need it anymore. he put it on auction at southern breeze in new york and david rubenstein, a very generous the length of his -- philanthro