william lloyd garrison said no. he said politics is a dirty business, we should just stick with what we're doing. but some other abolitionists said, well, maybe we can have more impact if we get inside the political system. so in the 1840s and '50s you start to see a tiny number of abolitionists getting elected to national office. and sometimes local office. for example, a congressman from pennsylvania, thaddeus stevens, he's an abolitionist. in the 1850s the united states senator from massachusetts, charles sumner, although there are still abolitionists who say this is a mistake, the abolitionists are focused on the goal of ending slavery, but they do have some rather spirited internal debates about how to do that. they also debate the role of women. and believe it or not, some abolitionist men said that female abolitionists were hurting the cause, that they were distracting people from the important issue, that they were discrediting the movement. frederick douglass and william lloyd garrison said no, they're n no

his name was william lloyd garrison. and william lloyd garrison was a native of massachusetts. he was a white man. he was from a working-class background. his father had abandoned the family when he was quite young. and william had to go out to work. he started supporting himself when he was very young. he went into the printing business. he was a printer, and he worked for several newspapers. he for a while worked for a paper in baltimore, and he saw slavery up close and personal when he was living in a slave state, in the state of maryland. and he was horrified by what he saw. and he went back to boston and decided that he was going to open his own newspaper and he was going to devote it completely to abolishing slavery. and the newspaper was called -- does anybody know the name of his paper? yes. >> "the liberatoliberator." >> yes. "the liberator." good name. it's a good name for an anti-slavery newspaper. "the liberatoliberator." he found td in 1831. and garrison did the whole thing himself. he wrote many of the articles. he did the actual printing of the paper. he distribu