went from william lloyd garrison and all the way in between.e aside the weird mixed metaphor, but that creeped me out a little bit. there was a weird little line. other than that, the thing for rand paul as a presidential candidate, the thing that animates him that he was so on today, this civil liberty stuff. i think it's a critical issue. it's not going to drive a presidential race. it's going to be an issue when you talk about an attorney general or intelligence, you know, picking intelligence officials, but that's not the larger current of economics or foreign policy, you know, can he get animated, present division of something else. i think on that issue, he's very compelling. >> the other big speech today, although from my understanding, rand paul's was slightly better received. but rick perry was, as well. i spoke with him yesterday about what mistakes he made in 2012 that he won't repeat should he run in 2016. take a listen. >> i won't have major back surgery six weeks before -- >> good idea. >> the announcement. >> how much was that a