the famous, some people would say infamous, william loeb., he really left a a footprint, shall we say. he was not shy. joe: i don't think it was his "the washington post" profiled him a week ago, saying that he endorsed a candidate seven years after he died. [laughter] >> so i'm waiting for him to endorse someone else. al: your paper is still very conservative. but it's different than it was in the loeb era. joe: it is because we don't have , william loeb. he was a one-of-a-kind guy. front page editorials. al: hated eisenhower. joe incredible acronyms. : gene mccarthy, 1968, whose campaign was run by my dad's cofounder of the new hampshire sunday news. he was called by loeb on the front page a skunk. and a skunk's skunk. and then my father upped the ante to where he was a skunk's skunk's skunk. mccarthy wrote a book about the campaign and said they were fair to him in the news columns, even though he was the underdog. they covered his campaign. he appreciated that. al: one of you mentioned before, the media is all over the place now. you cou

joe: it does because we don't have william loeb. he was a one-of-a-kind guy. one page editorials. nyms. gene mccarthy, 1968, whose campaign was run by my dad's cofounder of the new hampshire sunday news. he was called by loeb on the front page a skunk. and a skunk's skunk. as my father up to the anti-to where he was a -- upped the ante to where he was a skunk's sku nk's skunk. they said they were fair to him in the news columns, even though he was the underdog. he appreciated that. al: one of you mentioned before, the media is all over the place now. you could come up with many reports. there was the union leader. tom: year after year, these guys would cultivate sources. teddy white probably invented that. al: we talked about unpredictability. kathy,ur years ago hillary clinton was supposed to be gone. the polls, we mentioned the polls, showed obama winning by 10-11%. that is not unique. these voters are very independent-minded. kathy: that was my favorite primary of all. that was all hillary clinton. she just went out and worked every day, going to retell events, going to town hal