marshall. thank you very much. >> thank you, kate. >> john? >> and now, elliot williamsformer prosecutor, the reason that this is decided by the supreme court is because it is a twilight zone, and big legal issues to be decided, and with your help, i pult toget togethe major issues in a legally definable way, did trump engage in a insurrection, and in a legally definable way, does this cover presidents? >> and pretend it is an ep sed of "the twilight zone" and now, the framers were long on values, but short on the details, and they have not explained the details, and said that we don't want insurrectionists running the country, but how do you sort that out, and how do you define what an insurrectionist is, and if you assume that a person is, and how do you hold that person accountable. everyone may have opinions on this, and frankly, everyone has opinion on, this and the only entity to sort it out is the court. it is just an open question. if people are looking for the slam dunk, they may not find it. >> really, they may not. and to marshall's point earlier, it is not ju