william mckinley had a good sense of publicity. if you look at it, some of the people becoming president, where do they come from? you certainly see it in the 20th century, too. >> [indiscernible] >> there are some senators. but there is another position that has been particularly important. yes, governors. we look at presidents who were successful in their publicity. if you start in the latter part of the 19th century and look at presidents who were successful, what presidents do you see who were governors? it is not just a governor but big state governors. why would a big state governor in particular have a good sense of press relations? >> they understand what the people want and what they want to hear and how to control the media. >> they would have had a large population to deal with. it is not something they could deal with by themselves. some states are retail states where the president can go out and know a lot of people because the state is small. for example, bill clinton knew a lot of people throughout arkansas because h

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with mark cannon, 1896, campaign manager for william mckinley said there's two things important in politicsof what the other thing is. it's not that this is all new. but if you're going to play, if you're going to be a figure trying to influence public elections and you're not going to be public what your agenda is, it's a fair question for me to ask you, mr. and ms. candidate, why are you there? what is he or she asking of you. you're not telling me what's going on behind those closed doors. that's a relevant question. >> is there a progressive left democratic party leaning version of the koch brothers? >> there's an organization called the democracy alliance. it's similar in that it brings together a lot of wealthy, progressive folks, democratic folks. it brings in candidates, party bigwigs like david axelrod or jim messina, obama's campaign manager in 2012. the difference as far as i can tell in my reporting, the koch network is driven by this family, particularly these brothers, charles and david koch, billionaire industrialists. there is no fing lar fig quur on the left that has been p

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