rather than having to explain what the heck they're doing. former british diplomat, an author of william melanson, says only people like in education and historical knowledge would be attracted to this kind of tour. a very strange is that one of the ports of call is going to be poland because a lot of colds will remember the massive slaughter of over 100000 women and children. i think it was in the summer of 1943. so it's a very contradictory, focused more on a public relations situation. let's also not forget that until very recently the f b r actually prescribe these fanatics now suddenly they don't anymore. so it's all very false and it's all pure public relations. i mean, these people looked upon data, another real fanatic leader in the last floor. another thing we need to remember is that them in trying to give themselves this new image, you know, you know, put the new clothes on with the evil inside. they are actually proving that the so new liberal element because they're trying to propose as liberals now actually the new or 40 terriers has a new fashion and all these points need to be tak

for it, i'm joined now by former british diplomat and officer professor william melanson. professor goody, have you on the program with us and just hours after we broke that story here on our tea, the as of member who made those social media posts closed access to his accounts. what do you make of the, as these posts were made months ago, and similarly available publicly to all of this time as well as the former diplomats of the historian. i can say that clearly this is a complete false p r operation. i think a number of serious points needs to be made. firstly activism. the only history exists, you have the children of the grandchildren, all fanatics, fanatics who in the last world war, slaughtered over 100000 poles. and these, we do credit in fanatics. and of course, this is a reflection of effect. ukraine has never been a solid states was permanently changing board is any way. but that is very strange of that one of the port so called is going to be poland because a lot of cultural, remember the massive slaughter of over a 100000 women and children. i think it was in the summer of 1943