the question was actually between william mukasey and john poindexter and late 1986 as the iran contra was unraveling. casey was that one of our overseas stations and poindexter was at the white house so during his testimony poindexter was suddenly confronted by a believe arthur weinman achieved senate investigator for the committee and was basically reading him the transcript and poindexter was taken aback. he said i had no idea where that came from and i had no idea was being recorded and of course this set off a tempest at the hearing and in the media at the time because it was thought that william casey had a reputation of being widely and devious and maybe he constructed this nixonian tape system that no one knew about. i mean it was huge. >> host: you are being asked to tell the staff or if it was okay that the member could continue. asking questions and this is what you write because i think this kind of oils down sort of a lot of things you are asked to do at the time. you said holding the phone, i would take a breath close my eyes and make a judgment call. heads i would agree