william patterson, sherman you have to listen to the arguments -- you have to listen to the arguments. william patterson, sherman johnson, dickinson, martin -- at the end you do not find it very convincing or persuasive because you know correctly that size is not a predictor of political behavior. size will not be an issue henceforth. what will be an issue is -- this is a quotation. i missed a little at the bottom of the screen here. let me pull this down a bit if i can. it's exciting as madison gives a speech on june 30. the convention is deadlocked and madison is trying to break the deadlock and the summarizes his position. madison concedes that it is important to identify those senses. we want to know what they are. they are entitled to security. basically we have to identify what are the real interest deserving recognition? but he contended, this is madison speaking for himself. by the way, my colleague at boston college, a jd historian type has a book coming out next year called "madison and payne." it has madison's notes on debate, which forces us to think exactly how and when d

william patterson, sherman johnson, dickinson, martin -- at the end you do not find it very convincing or persuasive because you know that size is not a predictor of political behavior. size is not an issue. what will be an issue is -- this is a quotation. i miss the little at the bottom of the screen here. let's see if i can -- it's exciting as madison gives a speech on june 30. the convention is deadlocked and madison is trying to break the deadlock and the summarizes his position. it is important to identify those senses. they are entitled to security. basically we have to identify what are the real interest deserving recognition? by the way, my colleague at boston college, a jd historian type has a book coming out next year called "madison and payne." it has madison's notes on debate, which forces us to think exactly how and when did madison write his notes and how and when did he revise them? it's interesting about the way madison's views may have shifted over time and the way that those may have altered. it should be out sometime this year. we cannot assume that this is sacred sc

up here to worry livingston of new jersey and in particular one patterson who was the guy who came up with the new jersey plan. and william paterson is in energetic discussion with jacob broom. of all the statues broom is the only one for whom an image to not exist. i think the artist had to imagine what his face looked like. everyone is represented according to contemporary pictures. we are paterson proposes the new jersey plan which says that every states is going to get equal representation in bicameral legislaturea. that would've been great for states like new jersey whose votes counts as much as big states like virginia and new york but as you can imagine virginia and the larger states were not happy with that. so what to do? it looks like an irreconcilable clash. as was the case of many times at the convention, someone proposed a compromise. and that someone was roger sherman of connecticut. let's go look at him and see what he came up with. the connecticut delegation is here. and i have to apologize, ladies and gentlemen, because whenever i think of roger sherman i cannot help but think as i do so many times when i