and joining us from london is william pavey for my british ambassador to afghanistan. thank you for joining us, william from what you've seen. so far, we really can expect anything concrete to come out of a stow hard talks. can we? i mean, the telephone we're willing to engage in meetings. we'll talk to the government about kind of way before the us had decided to withdraw the troops, they've got what they wanted from the due process. they've got a us to withdraw me the nature with role. i can see why they would at this stage compromise. they think they can take africa stand by force and that's what they're going to try and do over the next few months. so william, you really think that taliban has doesn't have an appetite at all to negotiate given it's racing games? no, i mean, why would they resist the talk to many years when i was enough chemist on we try to engage the taliban and in meaningful talk. we, we knew that they represented a constituency in afghanistan, places like helmand in kandahar and other places where all was contested by the telephone. so there was a

william pavey is a full british ambassador to afghanistan is not convinced the taliban are willing to negotiate seriously, considering their race and gangs telephone. we're willing to engage in meaningful talk to the government of afghanistan, where before us had decided to withdraw the troops, they've got what they wanted from the due process. they've got us to withdraw me the nature of truth with roll. i can't see why they would at this stage compromise. they think they can take africa stand by force, and that's what they're going to try and do over the next few months. is they resist the talk to many years. when i was enough kind this down, we try to engage the taliban in a meaningful talk. we. we knew that they represented a constituency in afghanistan, places by helmand and kandahar and other places were always contested by the telephone. so there was an effort to bring them in to talk, but they seemed to, they were resistant. even then when we had 100000 troops in the country. so i don't see when they're made such dramatic great gains of the past few months. they're going to cal