william perry from stanford university and secretary of defense from 1994 to 1997, thank you for joining secretary perry. appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> tell us about where you think the world now stand in terms of that brink that you lived on for so many decades, that brink of the use of nuclear weapons, if not, nuclear war. >> today i believe that the likelihood of a nuclear catastrophe is actually greater than it was during the cold war. >> why is that? is that because there are more dispersed nuclear weapons and that the people in control of them do not have the same incentives that united states and soviet union have? >> no, i think it is primarily because dangers, the nuclear dangers from the cold war, are returning with the increasing hostility between the united states and russia. beyond that there are two new dangers. the danger of nuclear terrorism and as always, beside nuclear terrorism, there is a possibility of a regional nuclear war. none of those existed during the cold war. those are new. >> and the nuclear terrorism, how close do you judge us scientifically to

specifically, it is my privilege say that william perry and his extraordinary career began when he joined the army corps of engineer at the age of 18 and he moved on to the occupation in japan with efforts that earned him the rank of second lieutenant. after his time in the army, the secretary became one of the original silicon valley pioneers and he trained as a mathematician with specialization in digital and and, inssance systems hisequent years, he applied expertise to business and entrepreneurial initiatives. as the undersecretary of defense , secretary perry brought the areaary into the stealth and he was equipped with smart weapons and american forces were prepared to stand tall in the face of adversaries. secretary perry became the 19th secretary of defense and the first enlisted man to serve in that role. he had time in the highest ranks of the pentagon and was instrumental in the dismantlement of the nuclear warheads in the united states and russia. throughout his career, he has devoted himself to protecting the interests of the nation. his book chronicles his endeavors with equ

perry. i will start by saying william j. perry's extraordinary career began in 1947 when he joined the army corps of engineer at the age of 18. then he moved on to the army occupation in japan, and his efforts in the reserve officer training corps earned him the rank of second lieutenant. after his time in the army, the secretary perry became one of the original silicon valley hiseers, further broadening knowledge of technology, trained as a mathematician. his eventual specialization in digital and rennaissance systems caught the attention of u.s. government officials, who sought his counsel, and most importantly during the cuban missile crisis. in subsequent years, he applied his high-tech expertise to ambitious and -- business and entrepreneurial initiatives. in 1977 as undersecretary of defense for research and engineering secretary perry , brought the united states military into the stealth area . smart weaponsith and gps, american forces were prepared to stand tall in the face of adversaries. in 1994, secretary perry bec

people like william perry saw the potential there. we used it in terms of sdi to laid the ground work. we used it in sub marine, in precision navigation and timing. we used it in developing stealth technology. there were a lot of ways we could leverage this advantage and this advantage paved the way for what some people call the revolution in military affairs in the '90s. this advantage is now becoming what they have said, china's development of these capabilities of chinese characteristics, if you will. if that's the case now our dominan dominance. where do we go next? i would argue that i don't think the answer is found in the 1950s or the 1970s. i think it was found in the 1920s and the 1930s. as dr. sniyder said, it is becoming more capital intensive. if you look they are technology driven or technology is a key component. in the 1920s and 30s you have the commercial sector really driving a lot of what was going on. the automotive industry, the aviation industry, radio. the military takes some of this and adapts it. so it becomes

let me share with you and opinion piece from former defense secretary william perry confronting north korea, talk first and get help later. all of this in response to kim address," new year's we will continue to build up our self-defense capability, the pivot of which is nuclear forces and the capability for preemptive strike as long as the united states and the forces keep a threat in blackmail and as long as they do not stop doorstepe games on our disguising them as annual events we will defend peace and security of our state is all costs -- at all costs and make an contribution to safeguard global peace and stability." your reaction? you are smiling. guest: i am smiling because it is very north korean in town. it's not subtle or sophisticated. it's in your face and a threat. they are using the word preemptive strike, slipping it in there. the fact of the icbm capability, they think it will be a fact in a year or a couple of years, changes the game for them. one of the questions is, is that something that we would not like to see happen? the piece by bill perry at which i haven't re

let me share with you and opinion piece from former defense secretary william perry confronting northkorea, talk first and get help later.

defense secretary william perry who is plugged in as anybody to the north korean nuclear issue and heaying that we've tried all of these things and they haven't worked in the past and the north koreans are simply barreling forward with the perfection of their nuclear arsenal and the perfection what it take to make it a viable threat, that is an long range missile that can reach the united states. it's going to involve things that may be unpalatable like recognizing the kim regime. like giving that international recognition. like pledging that they are not going to have regime change. like giving them economic aid in order to help their people. i know, it sounds crazy, but they are saying that now we may have to take the sort of iran playbook. tough sanctions but diplomacy at the same time that doesn't involve regime change and unfortunately acknowledges because of the failure to date, north korea is a nuclear power or it has a nuclear arsenal. any idea of a preemptive strike doesn't look viable today. >> tell us about your interview with david petraeus. >> i'm about to be doing that t

former defense secretary william perry says the u.s. should consider shooting it down? flight would have to be on the list. >> if north korea actually fired a missile toward america or it's allies, current defense secretary, ash carter, has just promised the u.s. forces would shoot it down. one reason the u.s. and its allies should hesitate to hit north korean missiles on the launch pad would be the threat of kim's retaliation. he would launch a massive conventional attack on south korea's capital, seoul, which one analyst describes as a sitting duck. >> where are our military defenses that might be able to shoot them down? how good are they? >> they are in alaska and california. many of those batteries are outdated. they don't have a good success rate and the testing they have been through and they are in the process of being updated. if that threat from the north koreans comes to fruition, that could be a real test for the missile defenses. >> thank you. as donald trump downplays russian cyberattack and calls for a good relationship with moscow, the kremlin makes plan

>> interestingly, in 2006 we had an op-ed from former secretary of defense william perry and the currentretary of defense ash carter saying that we should do exactly that if we saw an icbm on a launch pad. so it is conceivable. but the problem is, if we were to do that, north korea would likely open up artillery fire on seoul or some such threat. >> right. and seoul with millions of residents and tens of thousands of u.s. forces there. donald trump on the campaign trail, at least, suggested the idea of giving nuclear arms to u.s. allies in the region, south korea and japan. how would that change the dynamic? >> i don't think we want to do that. i don't think that's in u.s. interest. in fact, i seem to see him backing away from that statement. the problem is, if for them to have nuclear weapons, they would have to leave the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. if they do, that treaty is largely dead. and that treaty has been the hallmark of u.s. nonproliferation policy. moreover, if south korea and japan had nuclear weapons, they may well start a nuclear arms race in the region with china, a

william perry -- i agree we need a working relationship are russia to deescalate a nuclear arms race.s a good thing that the united states will be a party to the talks on a metastasizing situation in europe. >> two presidents have tried this. the current president and my former boss, george w. bush, tried to have a relationship with russia. putin has grown more aggressive. and -- you know, with so much coverage of donald trum tweets and john lewis, poland right now is celebrating the arrival of nato troops led by americans. donald trump is getting set up for a potential very challenging first year of his administration with respect to russia. because you have americans leading nato troops in one baltic state in poland. and this is -- what does he do now? gibb what's happened with the faulty report? dwic given his bromance with putin. >> some talk of an early summit with vladimir putin. it put me in mind of the early summit between john f. kennedy and nikita kroos chef. summit was that kennedy was weak. et led to the cuban missile crisis. i think it's genuinely alarming. the only perso

the campus of william perry university destroyed. >> johnson hall gone. >> reporter: cars overnight -over turned, firefighters used their bare hands to rescue this woman trapped under her house. four dead, two dozens homes destroyed. on the west coast torrential rains triggering mudslides. >> crews have been clearing mud from the neighborhood all day, residents have been digging out making a path to their homes. >> reporter: officials worry with more rain on the way, the damage will get worse. in mississippi this is all that is left from the home many don't have insurance so they are waiting for the red cross and fema for assistance. abc news, mississippi. >> a major bridge connecting bucks county and burlington county is closed this morning. commuters have to make alternative plans if thee they use the turnpike connector bridge. crews do not have a time frame when it will reopen. workers spotted a fracture on a steel truss. construction started yesterday to stabilize the bridge before a permanent repair plan is made. we'll have details on the bridge closure and what it means for the

let's crossover to perry williams in sydney. give us some of the highlights.s feeds into a lot of the commodity trading. >> yes. it has been a strong quarter. they still derive the bulk of their revenue from iron ore. they beat expectations for the quarter, 60 million tons. that has gone down pretty well with shareholders. shares are up over 3% today. petroleum was down a little bit. investors were bored by the prospects of the annual guidance still being pretty healthy, starting to pour some more money into onshore shale in the u.s. and expiration in the gulf of mexico. one slightly off thing was copper. that was largely expected thanks to olympic dam here in australia. it was off-line for some time. overall pretty strong. shery: talk to us more about petroleum investments. >> andrew mackenzie, the chief executive has described it as the cyclical bet if you will. pouring a lot more money into expiration. in the mexico win bid round recently. they will be starting on that. they have also increased their spending in u.s. shale. it is still modest levels. they a

william perry who is the former secretary of defense said it would take only about ten minutes.inutes to decide what to do to respond to a nuclear attack on this country. so he will have that with him at all times. he will have that nuclear code. we have about 1,300 nuclear war heads deployed on submarines, bombers and in land based nuclear weapons as well. >> matthew dowd here as well. when the president-elect looks at the crowd for the first time another one of those moments where the weight of the office comes down. >> absolutely. i mean we watch this journey from coming down the escalator at trump tower but this is an entirely different situation. i think in many ways he saw himself as part of a campaign, as an entertainment and now he's part of history. today he becoming part of history in this. for who you support him or not, he's going to understand all the things martha said of getting the codes but he has a group of rotat voters and country that depends solely on him. >> they are gathering at the mall. we're going to be here all day long. we'll be right back. >> announc

perry, thanks. the "11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >> what does the president have to say about wall? nbc news ran into him tonight in the west wing. will foreign policy by twitter rule on america's relationship with one of our closest allies. and a top trump's aids says the media should keep its mouth shuts and listens. >> "the 11th hour" begins now. and good evening, once again from our headquarters here in new york. the white house revealed then walked back its plan to pay for the wall on the mexican border and it accommodated with a surprise interaction between the press and the president himself. it starts late this afternoon white house's spokesperson, sean spicer, the president will call for a 20% tax mexican imports to pay for the wall then spicer says that's one of the idea under consideration and it is not prescriptive. fast forward in the west wing this evening between the president and a few reporters, nbc's peter alexander, included. >> since there is confusion of the 20%, do you want to clarify. >> what 20% is that? >> peter responded, the 20% about mexican import tax. >

perry williams from sydney.ding out hopes the tpp will come together, even though donald trump has vowed to withdraw from it. the trade deal would be a major boost to the vietnamese economy. the message that i see is that i believe the new administration of the united states will reconsider as perspective on the tpp, and it will also try to achieve a new generation agreement that will benefit all parties concerned. i see the newly appointed members of the are, many of them, in favor of the tpp, so i think they might reconsider their decision. hour our correspondent spoke exclusively. why the optimism? haslinda: the comments from team, those taking senior positions, suggesting tpp as not dead. rex tillerson, he said recently, he isn't opposed to tpp even though he shares some of trump's concerns, and that view goes beyond tillerson. over the weekend, we had commitments from the likes of , shinzo abe,ull also a strong advocate. quashed, theets non-'s prime minister says he is not too concerned. here is why. >> eve

. >> cal perry is standing by. pete williams, also there in washington, d.c., our justice correspondent, with some new information on the suspect. pete, what can you tell us? what more do we know at this point? >> reporter: you may have heard earlier, craig, on msnbc, bill nelson from florida gave a name, which we are reluctant to use ourselves until we confirmed it with federal and local authorities and several authorities are now confirmed that is the name. the name of the suspect who's been arrested is esteban santiago, born march 16th of 1990, mrliving in florida, we believe naples, florida, and had served in the u.s. military. i don't know what the details of the military service are. we're checking on that now. authorities have yet to tell us anything about the suspected motive. now, one sign this is considered an act of terrorism would be if the fbi takes over this case, but that hasn't happened yet. it's way too soon. we don't know whether santiago, who was not -- we're told not wounded in the shooting when he was arrest

perry, thanks. the "11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >> what does the president have to say about wall?ht in the west wing. will foreign policy by twitter rule on

perry, thanks. the "11th hour" with brian williams starts now. >> what does the president have to say about wall? into him tonight in the west wing. will foreign policy by twitter rule on america's relationship with one of our closest allies. and a top trump's aids says the media should keep its mouth

perry. it's not over till the old fella swing... federer will go for an 18th grand slam title at the australian open. venus williams 2009. and it's back—to—back wins for england's cricketers on their tour of india, with victory in the first twenty20 in kanpur. we'll look back at that winning start for england in the twenty20 series against india and look ahead to tonight's efl cup semifinal second leg between hull and manchester united, but we start with the tennis. it's turning into a tournament for the old stagers in melbourne. 36—year—old venus williams will play her first australian open finalfor 14 years. she'll meet 35—year—old sister serena for the ninth time in a grand slam final. another 35—year—old, roger federer, became the oldest man to reach a slam final since ken rosewall in 1974. he beat fellow swiss stan wawrinka as tim hague reports. stand aside, sir, the revered roger federer, ready and waiting to secure his place in a sixth australian open final and with fellow swiss stan wawrinka trying to stop, federer showed the finest of form in the first set, a solitary break point all he needed, 7—5 this co

pete williams, i will let you go, i know you probably neetd to make some more phone calls. appreciate it as always, let us know if you have more. let me turn back to cal perry. it's 4:50 now, five minutes ago they told us we would expect a press conference in the lower right of your screen, the lower right corner, i i want to note for viewers, we're still waiting for governor rick scott of florida. who we expect to give us a briefing. while we wait for that, we've learned several things in the past hour. we've learned that this was a man who lived in anchorage, alaska, who comes originally he was born in new jersey. his family is of puerto rican heritage may mean nothing, that's their heritage. flies from anchorage this morning through minneapolis, connecting on now we know a delta flight. >> uh-huh. >> into -- >> maybe the same flight that witness was on. >> could be the same minneapolis flight that -- at least one witness we spoke with who was at the baggage carousel said he was picking up his bags from a flight from minneapolis. so it could be that he turned on the very people he was just on the plane with. >> and we're starting to get a bit of a profile