-- the chairman mentioned i worked at the audubon society, i watched on the nature end -- the william pullman nature center, i think on center street. >> yeah. >> the -- so we're using that as a -- to say, look, if this area floods, then if there is a stream in that area, or a wetland in that area, then the chances are it is probably has some connection to the main river. that doesn't mean the whole floodplain is somehow becomes like a dry -- >> let's go through this in a mechanical and then let's do a case scenario. >> those floodplains, water runs through them and hits a wash and hits another wash that eventually ends up in the verdi river and then the salt river and the rio salado project, so in that case, you would see a nexus. >> there would be a nexus on the riverbed, you know, in terms of jurisdiction. and if there was another river or wetland feature that met those other characteristics, had a bad bank and high water mark or soils and vegetation, it would be looked as as being adjacent to that water. but the entire floodplain, and this is -- >> no, no, that wasn't my question. my ques

the monsoon season, and along the salt river or rio salado, i worked at the nature center, the william pullman nature center down on i think it's center stre street, so we're using that to say if this area floods, then if there's a stream in that area or a wetland in that area, then the chances are it probably has some connection to the main river. it doesn't mean that the whole floodplain is somehow becomes like a dry -- >> let's go through this in a mechanical and then let's do a case scenario. so i'm elated you have some experience with the desert southwest. so those floodplains, water does run through them and may run down and eventually hit another wash that hits another wash that eventually ends up in the verde river and then the salt river so in that case you would see a nexus. >> on -- there would be a nexus on the river bed in terms of jurisdiction, and if there was another river or wetland feature that met those other characteristics, had a bad bank and a high water mark or high drik soils and vegetation, it would be looked at as being adjacent to the water but the entire flood plain