>> if you have facebook money, i think it's like william randolph hurst who said something about at the it alive for 60 more years. so why not. >> bill: why not because you could make more money by doing something that might have a future. >> for him i think it is being involved and having that under his belt and he'll try to find ways to make it work on line. he says it can be profitable. i don't know if that is true but he'll try. >> bill: all right. cnn has a new boss jeff zucker coming over from nbc, and this week he made his first move. and long time contributes or again, he said no, thank you for a good run, but you are out of here. >> right. >> bill: so what does zucker -- is he going to remake the entire network? >> i think there is a core political stable that he will keep, and i think there is programming there that he likes, but he wants to expand the definition of what news is. he knows that news is more than just politics. he wants to bring in entertainment, sports coverage. he wants a morning show that can actually compete. he was the executive producer of the today show.