but joining us now is william rhoden. let me start by asking it we know any more than what i've just summarized there. >> no, i'm just -- i'm looking at twitter and really i'm just kind of shocked. you know, i was down here -- i'm in baltimore and i was at the ravens/steelers game and, you know, rachel, this is, you know, right now currently i work on espn's andscape and i was with them. this has been a nightmare, the nfl's nightmare and i was just thinking about this the other day. what happens if something like this happens, it's like the nfl's worst nightmare. it's a violent game. we know it's a violent game. we've just been through the whole thing with tua tagovailoa, you know, the nfl players association investigating that, what the medical staff knew and i just think we become so anesthetized to this violence of this game that when something like this happens, it's just total stunner, it can literally happen on any play. this kind of stuff can literally happen at any time and, you know, i'm almost -- i know that's n