. >> get william safire involved. his weekly column on all that stuff. thank you, jane. so let's talk more about discounters. they were the big winners in the economic recovery -- i mean the economic downturn. who will be the big winners in an economic recovery? we're zeroing in on the american consumer all day today on cnbc. right now we do it with patrick mckee, senior equity analyst at mkm partners. and eric beeder, senior vice president at breen murray caray. discounters did very well. a lot of trade-down going on. but many economists believe that the recession ended in the second quarter and we're going to see growth in the second half of the year. what does that mean for retail stocks in the second half of the year? >> i think that's a good thing. we're going to see the consumer -- we see the consumer come back, they're going to come back to a mall that has less product, less discounting, and really the potential here to generate significant up side to most wall street earnings estimates. no one really is assuming in their estimates that the consumer's coming back.