there was a stunning number of people there who -- some of whom were well known, william scheirer and a power house and a major broadcaster in the early radio days. there was charles lindbergh comes through germany. you also have people -- even john f. kennedy went to germany in 1937. his diary entries aren't revealing other than he is interested in quote, unquote, he a bundle of fun that he picked up at the border. i talked to debois, not a name you associate with germany, but he spent a fellowship in 1935 and 1936 and had insights from germans and racial doctrine and the playoff and the 1936 olympics. you have people who are associated with russia who spent one tour in germany, which happened to be the critical years right before world war ii. >> who doesn't look good in retrospect? >> there are a number of people who don't look great. and there are a number of people who, i'd say, have a very mixed record. and one thing i tried to do in this book was not to be sort of rendering judgment on these characters. the whole point of the book and the reason i wrote a book about this period

there was a stunning number of people there who -- some of whom were well known, william scheirer andajor broadcaster in the early radio days. there was charles lindbergh comes through germany. everyone has heard of that. you also have people -- even john f. kennedy went to germany in 1937. his diary entries aren't revealing other than he is interested in quote, unquote, he a bundle of fun that he picked up at the border. i talked to debois, not a name you associate with germany, but -- the black sociologist- historian, but he spent a fellowship in 1935 and 1936 and had insights from germans and racial doctrine and the playoff and the 1936 olympics. you have people who are associated with russia who spent one tour in germany, which happened to be the critical years right before world war ii. >> who doesn't look good in retrospect? >> there are a number of people who don't look great. and there are a number of people who, i'd say, have a very mixed record. and one thing i tried to do in this book was not to be sort of rendering judgment on these characters. the whole point of the book