they are nike players, whether domestically, william tecumseh sherman or david petraeus. >> those are three. or the other to? >> and obscure man called flavius belisarius where the idea that they could restore the entire roman mediterranean empire in six century a.d. of my favorite of all, matthew ridgway was 100 days in korea, we took seoul, south korea, and got his back up. everybody wanted to evacuate to go back. >> did you have to narrow the list? where did you start? >> i had people, you know, i had people as diverse as spartan. i had written -- richard the lion heart, curtis lemay. all sorts of figures. that's a rather trying to be systematically chronological every five pages, just take what i thought was most interesting dynamic controversial, and then use them as a template in the conclusion to say they're applicable to other people across time and space. >> in "the savior generals" you write are not mere cowboys. scholars of war or fall into shadow, garner little notice, they nevertheless use their time and obscurity to systematically review contemporary tactics and strategi

also, william tecumseh sherman was a guest for dinner, as well as a number of other local and national political figures. she and her husband entertained these political figures. serving as hostess or those dinners would have been incredibly important. >> a conversation on lucy hayes is now available on our website, c-span.org/firstladies. tune in next monday for a program on lucretia garfield and mary arthur mcelroy. >> "washington journal" continues. host: i am with brian higgins, democrat from new york. he serves on the foreign affairs and homeland security committees. i want to get your response, with the attorney general he -- general talking about this probe into phone calls at the associated press. he attorney general talked about it being an issue of security. what was your take on his comments yesterday? yes, i think the attorney general has to justify in testimony -- guest: i think the attorney general has to justify in testimony that this is a national security issue. an obligation to come forth -- to be forthcoming about the reason for this collection of information and dat

one case i made exception was william tecumseh sherman. most of you remember gettysburg july 4 through 6 of 1863 that is where the intent gave that "gettysburg address" but the union juggernaut of technology and greater resources had just worn down the south and he would never go north again but fast-forward one year later but cold harbor, petersburg, and in that horrible summer of northern virginia ulysses s. grant destroyed the army it was a revolving door were immigrants came in and when did and replaced by others. grant had been the hero march 1864 devein the spectacular victories in the west of shiloh, lincoln thought he would plow right into richmond and as they left he turned over the army and they had an interesting exchange and to summarize their letters at the time the grant was to take richmond which is only 70 miles away the other city was atlanta. northern virginia was settled so from number tennessee it was wild and sherman had taken our may not just to amanda but had to do not fit -- navigate through swamps entrails they had