and i would highlight exactly, you know, if steven spielberg came in to talk about william wieler, orwieler. and so they were very well prepared. but, you know, they were so familiar with the movies, so familiar with their lives. some of them, you know, steven spielberg knew wyler. so they came with their own knowledge and their own appreciation. >> rose. >> rose: the movies were in part propaganda. >> yes, they were, they were. that was part of the task that the government gave these-- these five film makers, to silent war not only to, sell the war not only to the american public, but to soldiers who were 18 and 19 years old and who were coming in and really didn't know the reason we were in the war in t just to give them a reason, but to excite them, to inflame their patriotism, and capra was very, very good at doing that. >> rose: did any of them have resistance to that at all? >> i think they all wanted to serve their country. capra had the most directly propagandistic assignment. for the other four, they thought what they were going to do was travel the world to wherever the batt