could have been the -- the documentation is scant on that but he said -- willie alwaysth told nancy that he -- they were gathered kind of closely in the knginning.g. there was a bit of stock home syndrome going on, they are illiterate, never a low toddes go to school, he taught him thank you oh wright his name even though he was totally blind and hat was a big moment. he didn't have to sign an x.as b they -- the side show manager -- their main manager was really the only person he ever said anything bad about and the really hated him, even at age 107 remembered some pretty vial things about him. but once she get them back, they were -- they knew they could come home after that, even though they still try to take advantage of them and not pay them when the could get away with it. they became happier and as i say that was really the only world they knew. >> the traveled the world and became famous. >> yep, and the headlines of enemy "new york -- of "the new k times." they performed before royalty in england, when willie was at the home in roanoke, which was about bought and paid for. that'