now, on the republican side, in the wake cycle, willie giuliani held a 15 point lead over john mccain. it would be nearly 3 more months before john mccain will finish first in a poll. of course, he was the eventual nominee and mike huckabee was in first place as late as january 6. the moral of the story, forecasting the you jerk this early is by predicting the world series after three weeks of spring training. it is not a good idea. >> it almost seems like earlier on it is the washington outsider that seems to do very well. are you talking about people >> that tends to be a common occurrence. keep in mind, it has been more than 50 years since a nonmainstream establishment candidate won the nomination, that would've been barry goldwater in 1964. george w. bush was the only nominee since then who hadn't won for president before. outsiders generally don't make it in the republican universe. >> asked why it is so interesting. right now a deal to try to prevent a government shutdown is being pitched to congress. a budget agreement was agreed to today that prevents a spike in medicare part