but as you mentioned, you know, he is behind this 1988 willie horton ad. of course, that's the ad that helped to derail michael dukakis' presidential campaign. we're really seeing a lot of interesting figures showing up here in juneau. and this speaks to the level of tension that exists here as this counting process continues, chuck. >> great way to putting it. things like this do tend to attract interesting characters. >> yes, they do. >> no doubt. kristen welker, hopefully it's less windy and see you down the road. thanks very much. >> hopefully so. thanks so much, chuck. >> all righty. >>> back on land following their so-called spancation, the carnival passengers are telling the story right out of gilligan's island, no power, backed up toilets and only military rations on the menu. miguel is live for us in san diego. miguel, you're hearing these stories. sounds like pretty miserable time on that cruise. >> yeah, chuck, those passengers got off of the "splendor" yesterday afternoon and we've been hearing them for the past 24 hours. many of them come down

i want to get quickly to what you talked about, the willie horton thing also.ot of conservative circles. he signed on as a sort of spokesman for the miller campaign. he announced the lawsuit last night. he's behind probably one of the most controversial ads in political history, that willie brown ad, he signed on board that's raised a lot of eyebrows. >> when might we have a winner declared? >> reporter: anyone's guess. the lawsuit will continue. the first lawsuit that was filed in federal court will continue next week. but the judge will only decide whether he has jurisdiction to even hear the case. beyond that, the vote counting will continue with these write-in ballots, with question ballots, with absentee ballots. we may not have a certification until the 29th of november. and only until then -- only after then i should say can the miller campaign even mount more legal challenges. so this could drag on for a while, brook. >> i hope you like thanksgiving dinner in alaska, travis. >> don't say that. >> i'm kidding. >> my mom in chicago would be very unhappy a

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brown behind the infamous willie horton ad that michael dukakis, said it could not be secured.kowski called it desperati desperation. >> you will see at the end of this there will be more, more votes for murkowski that aren't challenged. if the trend continues. >> the question here is does it spell the beginning of the end of miller's plight? based on the body language behind me among the supporters, it seems they're getting warn down. >> thank you. melissa bean will await results and she told supporters it would be benz before the count is done. she is trailing joe walsh by 350 votes. a former university of tennessee student that hacked to palin's e-mail in the presidential campaign was sentenced to serve a year and a day in halfway house possibly instead of prison. palin preparing to promote her book with a stomp in the key presidential caucus state of iowa this month. up next, another possible presidential candidate. 12 in 2012 continues with a journey to the bayou. [ male announcer ] how can rice production in india affect wheat output in the u.s., the shipping industry in

. >> floyd brown is the same floyd brown who brought us the willie horton ad. to be continued. thanks so much kristen welker in juneau. >>> coming up next, setbacks for the president in the g-20. we talk about the impact with "mad money"'s jim cramer. >>> why is louisiana's bobby jindal taking direct shots at president obama? you could switch for great gas mileage or seats that flip and fold with one hand. you could switch for up to 600 highway miles on a single tank of gas. or the hundred-thousand mile powertrain warranty. over a thousand people a day are switching to chevy. they're not just trading in, they're trading up. qualified lessees can get low mileage lease on this 2011 malibu ls for around one ninety-nine a month, a consumers digest best buy. call for details. >>> before leaving south korea president obama insisted a trade deal with seoul isn't dead, just delayed. the markets aren't buying that. joining me jim cramer host of "mad money." thanks for joining us. >> of course. >> let's talk about walking away without a deal. these are preset summits. they expected to fi

floyd brown is also one of the people who's behind that infamous 1988 willie horton ad that wound uperailing michael d dukakis's presidential bids. the counting will continue today and expect it to last through next week. >> lucky you. appreciate the update. >> reporter: sure. thank you. >>> our political and religious leaders tell lgbt youth that they have no future. they can't serve our country openly. >> that is part of the new ad where cindy mccain openly disagrees with her husband. and it's not "don't ask, don't tell." she takes it a step further and pushes a link between that military policy and the recent string of bullying cases and suicides by gay teenagers. the ad points the finger at the government. >> our government treats the lgbt community like second class citizens. why shouldn't they? >> let's bring back our company, kristen soltis, jonathan cape hart and todd webster. this is interesting. john mccain says we're waiting for the survey which we're hearing from the tens of thousands of people who took it say they support a repeal of that ban. but what does it tell you w

if you're old enough you may remember floyd brown for his iconically racist willie horton ad from theential race. more recently he founded citizens united. yes, that citizens united and he's been the proprietor of a website called impeach obama campaign.com. and he's very, very, very serious about this issue in his heart. amanda turkle at huffington post quoting him from septeer of this year. floyd brown says "barack obama is a very dangerous man. over the last two years we have been watching the slow progression of what i call a bloodless coup. for the international socialist movement of which barack obama is a card carrying member, card carrying? the united states must be brought to its knees and i guarantee you that barack hussein obama is doing everything he can to bring the country to its knees. he wants to bring it to its knees". that's not me doing a character ra tur. that's actually what he said. now brown has moved his vague accusation factory to alaska where he minting new vague accusations telling the press that a ballot box in one precinct was not secure because electoral

he made up those willie horton ads back in the 1980s that tarred michael dukakis' reputation and destroyedsidential campaign. whatever the decision to think to hire this guy and bring him in miller is a little late with his campaign effort. >>> how many new and coming members of congress have never served in elective office before of any kind. according to "the new york times," 39. 35 house members and four u.s. senators making this the most. if you think about these things, the most inexperienced crowd in over 50 years to take office. 39 members in the next congress have zero experience in governing. tonight's who knows big number. . >> up next, president obama's pennsylvania problem. he won the state by double digits in 2008 but now a new poll shows the president down big in six key battleground states. what's happening in p.a. and across those other -- well, across those other great lakes states. scranton to oshkosh. governor ed rendell joins us next. you're watching "hardball" only on msnbc. [scraping] [horns honking] with deposits in your engine, it can feel like something's holding y

floyd brown, that first speaker there, people might know him back from 1988 he was behind the willie hortonthat devastated the due kabg sis -- d u.k d another campaign. patti ann: could he really win this thing. >> reporter: that is if all the challenged ballots are being tossed out. 98% of the votes are being given to lisa murkowski. 8% are being challenged by the miller supporters here, the observers on the grounds that they are misspelled, or there is a come a or that they are adding lisa murkowski, republican. now miller's strategy is to get all those thrown out. if he does win he does have a chance. then if he gets all those thrown out then the courts ultimately have to go through and some of the ballots are actually spelled correctly. ultimately those you would think would be added to the lisa murkowski total and i think she still wins even in that scenario. patti ann: interesting, dan springer live in alaska, thanks. jon: in today's power play ask's former governor sarah palin is planning a tour of america's heartland. the former vice presidental candidate is promoting her new book k

he's a veteran conservative activist, probably his biggest claim to fame was authoring that 1988 willie hortond, that a lot of people think sunk michael dukak dukakis. a lot of people think it sank his campaign, floyd brown was also involved in campaigns of the jennifgennifer flowers-bill clinton affair and right now he has a website to impeach president obama. >> thank you very much, shannon, for that. they're getting involved up there in alaska. mean while, lisa murkowski is accusing joe miller of taking desperate measures to prevent her from winning. >> what people have done is they have filled in the oval and written a name and spelled the name right. and miller doesn't know what to do with the fact that people actually did what they were supposed to do. and so what we're seeing now, i believe quite honestly are acts of desperation. lawsuits are being filed. we are seeing ballots that are perfectly clear ballots being challenged. >> you can see the murkowski interview with john, on john king usa airing 7:00 p.m. eastern only here on cnn. >>> nancy pelosi is refusing to take blame for the d

people may remember the willie horton ad, well, he was behind that which many people say sunk the michael it well. so is there a path to victory for joe miller, or is that door closing? >> reporter: yeah, it's closing. he's really only got one path, and that is a judge at some point throws out all of the challenge ballots and they start over again looking at them, but i'm looking at the ballots that are being challenged right now, and so many of them appear to be lisa murkowski spelled correctly that it may not even matter. murkowski could get the miller total even without all the challenges of misspelled names. martha: yeah. i bet you're right. the name's been around alaska for a very long time, they've seen it a million times on campaign ads. i'm guessing they know how to spell it. we will see. dan springer, thank you so much. gregg: a new chapter in this an international scandal bagging russian spies on american soil. new reports on the identity of the man who outed, yes, there she is, anna chapman, and her comrades. what russia is vowing to do to them now. ma march she's been crowned.