against dukakis because he was the massachusetts governor who while in office, had a man named willie horton. are william horton commit a murder went or pardon me, commit a rape. when he was on furlough from prison where he had been incarcerated for murder. and it was used to paint by the bush campaign and the push allies dukakis as soft on crime. you're going to see similar things like that coming from the trump campaign. and trump's allies, in fact, trump started a flick at it yesterday by pointing out that there was this minnesota bail fund that kamala harris had supported at one time and then in subsequent years, albeit he wasn't this nuance when he was on stage he's trump yesterday, there were various people who once they got bailed out, had committed other crimes, including allegedly in one case or another case, murder. so the idea of using the sort of real-world examples of alleged soft on crime policies are techniques are beliefs that then turned into these horrific, ripped from the headlines. stories, or what they're going to use against harris. now there's a subtext to all of this.

willie horton ad being the most prominent. i think lee atwater said that by the time this is over, people going to think willie horton is his running mate and. you know, that wasn't that was difficult to deal with. it was difficult to have it to not just i mean, it's pretty overtly racist but and it worked. i was telling fred salvucci on the way over here that saturday night live did a routine one point where they had a map of europe and, you know, the mediterranean and they pointed to the northern all of our have come from up here. bush is from here to kakissis from here. vote for bush. he's whiter. it's really and you know, it was just some laughs, but there was some element of truth to it. and, you know, fundamentally, what they were able to do with that and with other was just suggest that you don't really know who this guy is. so in the end, the then all playbook in are unfortunate and is strongest correlation on the exit polls with the vote was what you thought of mike dukakis or what you thought of george bush. it was w

now, willie horton happen to be black and they showed willie horton picture and it was widely derided as racist. jesse jackson at the time had said that and nevertheless, it wasn't effective ad as part of a broader campaign so fast forward now, and there are a number of different cases from one, kamala harris was a prosecutor in san francisco that in the trump campaign's estimation can have the similar effect in this race, for instance, there was a young man who was 18. he was put on probation instead of imprisoned for a pretty brutal beating and a year later, he went up killing someone and in the trump campaign's estimation, this is an example of being soft on crime and a bad example, bad progressive justice policies the harris campaign points out, look, this was a first-time offender and he was sentenced to probation in treated in accordance with general policies of first-time offenders. so they're going to litigate but there are a few other cases. has she didn't pursue the death penalty for a cop killer. and in another case in 2020, she had supported a bail fund that later on this

you look at bush, the willie horton business. if you look at the, you know, cove id for example, i mean there's always some side or the other accusing the other being an existential threat and always sharpen it's closer to elect to the election. well, it's not a soul to point us an oven, usually because all thought un security council meeting, but we will be back at the top. we're going to have a whole range of stories and creating protests and tenure more on the whole. trump thing, a bit of reaction from european union hungry and peace mission. so we hope see a nice decent the the when i was here position i was suggesting we bomb bell. great. i was suggesting that we send american pilots in and blow up the bridges on the drain. i would suggest thinks we take out his oral supply. i was suggesting very specific, actually, the law was suggesting we take out his oral supply. the each of the leading deja is $64.00. he was with the web crew that cleared the danbury off to the city of india was bombed in 1999. it was an ordinary striki

going back to reagan at reagan, you look at bush, the willie horton business, and you look at you to cultivate, for example. i mean, there's always some side or the other accusing the other being an existential threat, and it always sharpened it's closer to elect to election. while ahead all the event on his appearance of the convention, donald trump confirmed ohio state senator j. d bones says pick for the vice president, should he win the election. and after lengthy deliberation and thoughts and considering the tremendous talents of many others, i have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of vice president of the united states as senator j. d. vance of the great state of ohio. as vice president, j. d will continue to fight for our constitution, stand with our troops, and we'll do everything he can to help me make america great again. let's take a closer look out. donald trump's new running mate, j. d found says perhaps best known for the non sing trump back in 2016 before his presidential when. but later of the republican party's news, vp, norman, they admitte

you look at bush, the willie horton business. if you look at the, you know, cove it for example, i mean there's always some side or the other accusing the other being an existential threat. and it always sharpens closer to elect to election. john jordan, speaking to me earlier know ahead of the republican convention on monday. donald trump confirmed ohio state senator j. d fun. so says pick for a vice president should he of course, when the election, after lengthy deliberation and thoughts and considering the tremendous talents of many others. i have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of vice president of the united states as senator j. d. vance of the great state of ohio. as vice president, j. d will continue to fight for our constitution, stand with our troops and will do everything he can to help me make america great again. while it is an interesting choice, let's take a closer look at donald trump's new running make a phone so you won't serve as a marine. and a rock is perhaps best known for didn't no

going back to where, i guess at reagan, you look at bush, the willie horton business. if you look at the, you know, cove it for example, i mean there's always some side of the other accusing the other being an existential threat and always sharpens closer to elect to election or controversial to on this on in. so i was the highest, alex jones has been off me, some tough questions on why the u. s. secret service dropped the boat at the campaign routing that nearly sold trump tow to always put people on that leave, especially when it's 450 feet away. and so this wasn't a failure, this was a deliberate stand down. and then when the local snipers got on the radio and said we've got a, we've got him, they were not given the green light to shooting. normally they would already have the authorization to kill. they've been told not to it's coming out now. so it was a deliberate stand down. and i believe a well this individual up and then brought him in and let him do this. and so that's why the deep state so desperate. so we have $112.00 days until the election, but there's $7

going back to reg is at reagan, you look at bush, the willie horton business, and you look at you to cultivate for example. i mean, there's always some side or the other accusing the other being an existential threat. and it always sharpens closer to elect to election on following month suspect taneesha and donald trump has finally announced his running mate, ohio state senator g, j, and t von so will become vice president if they when the november 3rd. and joe biden doesn't like him already. after lengthy deliberation and thoughts and considering the tremendous talents of many others, i have decided that the person best suited to assume the position of vice president of the united states as senator j. d. vance of the great state of ohio. as vice president, j. d will continue to fight for our constitution, stand with our troops, and we'll do everything he can to help me make america great again, please. well, that's a good place to look out, be republican, vice president in waiting. so j dave on to one served as a marine in iraq is probably best known for actually publicly denouncing

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how many people at this point knew who willie horton was? campaigns change.e this honking, giant anchor around donald trump called project 2025. the reason they don't talk about it is that people who want to politicize the military is pretty small. the people who want to end the civil service is pretty small. that people that want to criminalize abortion on all levels is pretty small. that is the trump agenda. the republican party doesn't have any other agenda. i don't really see why it's complicated. get about the business of running against the other guy rather than this sort of dithering do we have the perfect candidate? no, you don't. i never had the perfect candidate except when michael ran for lieutenant governor. it is a time to come together and stop this. >> you know, i mean, i agree. i do. i want to be clear. >> do you, symone? >> i do. i agree. people are like, i don't understand the democrats and why they are fretting? first of all, this is what democrats do. this is what they do. i have never in my short political life, when i was a little baby p

it will get really ugly, i agree with the professor, the already said they will willie horton her, peopled ads that were racist and a better prisoner let out and committed murder, it was ugly, it was bad. the real problem is he will distort the record, which he does all the time, i think the idea of having a prosecutor running against a convicted felon, and also this language that they use, it is driving people to the democrats, i believe that people are tired of it, women in particular, to hear a woman degraded like that, calling her a bum or dei hire. the whole thing is making people say, wait a minute, this is not what we want in a president of the united states. of course, his, earlier to the christians to which he spoke, you don't have to vote again. he means that, he means that. >> professor, looking at the upcoming presidential debates, donald trump appears to be backing off his commitment to that debate in september but the vice president is raring to go, listen to what she had to say today. >> you may have noticed that donald trump has been resorting to some wild lies about my re

you know, willie horton horton time right. i mean that to me if. i go back just like that was the start of a lot of bad stuff that took root in politics, took root in campaigning and that we live with every day as one who governs and is one who ran and i think that is different. also think that unfortunately has been a real fraying of institutional norms that are foundational to democracy and to everything that governor dukakis has for and teaches his students about. and it is imperative on all of us that we get back to the business of shoring up those foundations, the judiciary, the press the legislative branch and executives who understand that their power is not unlimited or without bounds. and we have a rule of law in this country. to me that is different. but everything that governor dukakis about the way he exemplified himself as a public servant in so many realms and what he continues to teach students here today is exactly why we need governor dukakis in this. so we used to have an expression in the newsroom i'm sure they still do have this

we saw this with the willie horton experience back in '88. bangladeshi daughter. this has been something very prevalent in presidential campaigns. >> and we should expect more of it. i think where she is today versus the nominee back in january is there's less than 3 1/2 months for a lot of this to stick. we just came off focus groups with young lat inos in battleground states, what's interesting, latinos really liked her. unlike hillary who sadly had to work through decades of baggage of what the right was trying to pin on her, kamala has a fresh canvas. as a result, i think it's one of the reasons why she's winning the imaginations of people on tiktok. i had the privilege of meeting her in flagstaff, when she walked on that stage, all of the young people at flagstaff university stood up and clapped. she's their superhero. >> and meeting with a group of students in ann arbor, it was one muslim american who wants to be persuaded. >> that's the bare minimum that we've been asking for. and i think the main issue is that we're not seeing any cha

remember the willie horton ad, when republicans can't talk about issues like a woman's right to choose they are going to resort to dog whistles and code words, racially tinged rhetoric. you just have to power through it. they know it's coming, but here is the risk that i think republicans take when they do this. as i said earlier, they have maxed out their base. i mean, the maga base is that nuclear energy levels. they can't get any hotter. when you engage in that kind of rhetoric you tend to antagonize the moderate suburban voters, the swing voters who reject that kind of rhetoric in the suburbs of milwaukee, the suburbs of pittsburgh in pennsylvania. maricopa county, arizona. those moderate swing suburbs tend to reject that kind of language. and so, the republicans may use that in order to keep their base intact. they are never going to lose any element of their base, but if they continue this route, people will see through it and they risk pushing those moderate republicans and moderate democratic voters in independent voters to the democrats who will be litigating not based on thos

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it was called bush versus dukakis and the trailer was actually willie horton ad a quiet the question for everyone, which is it issue too soft on crime or is she too hard on crime what is the strategy here and what will be the winning strategy? now on trump's speak at all morphs into well, this know that she's running for president kamala is suddenly trying to transform her personality to pretend she is it's tough on crime. >> she is so bad on crime in fact, kamala harris was the original marxist district attorney it's camila like it's camila. >> he must know that, right? i say it every single night. in fact, for the last four years has been the vice president. her name is always been kamala harris but it'd be nice to have a debate between kamala harris and donald trump play out. wouldn't it? >> well, tonight it's not exactly clear if we're going to get even that chance who his campaign is saying they won't commit to a debate until harris is officially the nominee. >> of course all but the confetti is already fallen. joining me now, alayna plot collaborate. she is a staff writer for t

they're going to go willie horton. they're going to say that a woman, a black woman shouldn't be in this office. they're going to go to the underbelly of the united states of america i'm not saying when they go low, we go high because when they go low, we go to hill. that's what we say in south carolina. >> but when they go low, we are going to punch them in the mouth, but we're going to remind people what a future looks like under donald trump versus what a future looks like on a kamala harris, david, the washington post reporting tonight that while speaking at a private fundraiser over the weekend, vance referred to president biden withdrawing from the race as quote, a political sucker punch, reportedly admitted that harris does not have quote, the same baggage of joe biden i'm wondering what you make of those remarks, and i mean, do you think they are worried about running against do you think they've found the kind of the message that they are going to stick with now running against harris, yet no. so let me just a

at the presidential level doesn't engage in explicit anti-blackness like you don't really have willie horton sort of moments coming from them in this way. >> like even with mccain, it was very, he's not liked us we'll bomber, but it was not an explicitly he's black and he was a problem mexicans that was a different story and they'll go with them, but like the specific anti-black plate, not so much. >> i mean, you don't think that the barak hussein obama thing was yeah. >> but even that's more about outside like hussein is not a reference to blackness. hussein is a reference to like he's like going straight at the black part. i don't think that plays as much. what i think is interesting about harris is i think she's easier to criticize from within the left than outside the left, like donald trump's not going to get up a color or a cop i think we should just not going to go higher as project. >> right. but i'm saying, but the criticisms that we've heard from harris for most of the time coming up here for primarily intra-group because she was running for president. it's intra-group. those criti

kevin mccarthy in this case is making it feel like we are not in willie horton 1988 anymore. it's not 1998 anymore. it's 2024. the argument in a world of women in the workforce and a world of browned america where you have people who are qualified, dei, most people don't know what that is in america. to the extnt they know, they probably have someone in their family who has been part of their programs. they are so systematized to say you're unqualified, it's just beyond its racism and also just going to fail as a disqualification mechanism because too many people look at people who benefitted from diversity programs and affirmative skpax say those people are perfectly qualiied. >> let me use your own logic. she's the vice president. she's also qualified. >> a lot of things to say about that, but i do think there's a large gap of knowledge in the country about -- i would say this about any vice president. i think at the end of four years, how many people in america besides what mike pence did on january 6th, what did mike pence do in office? to the average voter, no one has an