and he and his wife willie jean barns they actually spent a lot of time in the civil rights movement in san francisco and they marched with the naacp and they brought lawsuits to bare to make sure that he would actually have better conditions, at that time, in the police department, and he was able to win those better conditions, through his organizing and his alliances and work with naacp and other organizations in san francisco. and he has run and he has raised 6 children in san francisco. and he is actually spent a great deal of time to make sure that he could provide for his children, and he gave them a wonderful experience growing up to show casing the wonderful, beautiful yosimite park and the wilderness around here and like to go camping together and made sure that they have a real strong education and karl barns is here and is a member of the fire department still, retired member of the fire department, and he is actually was able to contribute his services well to san francisco saving many, many lives, but he has always been part of really making sure that the lake view coul