. >> we conclude our conversations about music with the great willie nelson. >> i think the music is probably saved my life many times. on a show at night doing a couple hours, back and forth. it's probably kept me alive. >> charlie: looking at music with patti smith, sting, james taylor and willie nelson when we continue. >> every story needs a hero we can all root for, who beats the odds and comes out on top. this isn't just a hollywood story line, it's happening every day all across america. every time a storefront opens or the midnight oil is burned or someone chases a dream not just a dollar. they are small business owners. if you want to root for a real hero, support small business, shop small. captioning sponsored by rose communications from our studios in new york city, this is charlie rose. >> charlie: patti smith is here, pt, singer song writer, punk rocker. an extraordinary relationship with photographer robert maplethrower, he died of aids in 1989. they called it la boheme. welcom >> do you know wh the very first words you said when we first met like 10, 11 years ago. >>

the book is called "willie nelson: an epic life," and that's by joe patoski.it is not the most readable book in the world, which i think gives us the name of everybody in the world that has an interview with willie nelson. but given the fact that willie nelson is one of the more, is clearly one of the great entertainers of our time, and usually an icon and a unique type of individual because, because of who he is. and his entertainment qualities. in vermont where i have seen him a number of times, all of this country, he brings just a huge range of people. most singers will appeal to this group of people, that group of people. will he brings them all together and i think that has a lot to do with his personality, his decency as a human being. his gentleness. he's a very gentle man. his decency has been just a very, very strong support of rural america family farmers. so if people are interested in learning about the life of a guy who was born in arkansas, has been a migrated to texas, you know, he worked in the cotton fields. he grew up very, very poor, and he

i think willie nelson waut to get off the bus and get into a big big store. >> burger king verses mcdonaldsn verses williams. franchises all over the place have it your way we are open 24-hours. >> montel will have the boutique stop willie will have the 24 squa yard carton score called will-mart. >> i can see it. think outside the bun. >> dennis miller everybody. >> for this special edition of the factor. as always thank you for watching. i always remember the spin stops right here. we are definitely looking out for you. because we are definitely l l l l l l ll >> top of the morning to you, everyone. hope you had a great labor day weekend. it's tuesday, september 6th. i'm gretchen carlson. they needed the rain, not the wind. remains of tropical storm lee fueling major wildfires now. 500 homes already wiped out and now many more in the line of fire. >> oh, boy.

before he was grisled and gray, willie nelson was a redhead. picked. a couple of the redheads around the office have been kind of blue since this news came out about the sperm bank. now, i say, don't let the haters get you down. plenty of people love redheads. charlie brown, he was quite partial to redheads. as was matthew mcconaughey's character from "dazed and confused." >> get in with us. but that's all right. we'll worry about that later. i will see you there. all right? >> bye. >> i love those redheads, man. >> i know you. >> is there any social injustice that can't be assuaged with the wisdom of david wooderson? i think not. there were reports that a red-haired baby seal in russia was shunned from the seal colony. poor little thing. but let us not be mean to seals, ladies and gentlemen, because in the end, we all go gray anyway. yes, some of us sooner than others. but in my mind, we're all redheads each in our own way on the ridiculist. that does it for "360." thanks for watching. john king starts now. >>> good evening from los angeles. t

i think willie nelson ought to get off the cannibus and -- >> bill: this is how i envision it, burgerms, franchises all over the place, haveit

before he was grisled and gray, willie nelson was a redhead.tic specimen i could have picked. a couple of the redheads around the office have been kind of blue since this news came out about the sperm bank. now, i say, don't let the haters get you down. plenty of people love redheads. charlie brown, he was quite partial to redheads. as was matthew mcconaughey's character from "dazed and confused." >> get in with us. but that's all right. we'll worry about that later. i will see you there. all right? >> bye. >> i love those redheads, man. >> i know you. >> is there any social injustice that can't be assuaged with the wisdom of david wooderson? i think not. there were reports that a red-haired baby seal in russia was shunned from the seal colony. poor little thing. but let us not be mean to seals, ladies and gentlemen, because in the end, we all go gray anyway. yes, some of us sooner than others. but in my mind, we're all redheads each in our own way on the ridiculist. that does it for "360." thanks for watching. >>> tonight, peace, politics and

my song is from, it is from willie nelson. he sang a song called "angels flying too close to the ground." if he could change just a couple of words to that sound, so that it might be used as a fund- raiser for those heroes on flight 93. "angels flying too close to the ground." so sad. host: thank you for your call. you're looking at live scenes from lower manhattan. we had interviews with people involved, including david thomas in the pentagon. he lost a close friend and shared his story with us. >> not enough is covered by the term victim when we talk about the pentagon of the twin towers with a field in pennsylvania, those brave people. in thatthink of anyone tragic day as a victim. of a victim is hit by a meteor when they are walking down the street, a victim of chance, or gets mugged and robbed, they are victims. the people who died on 9/11 were not victims. there were casualties of an act of war, an attack in my case on our military headquarters. so it was interesting that afternoon to still be trying to gell thatit would