willie nilly donald trump they approve all these pipelines, just here, approve this, approve this. the fact is they approved more pipelines than there is oil. same in north dakota. they have more pipelines than oil. so big reports between approving the keystone xl permits to go ahead, the ambridge line three and one in eastern canada and mr. trump approved 2 billion barrels more than needed for the pipelines. no guarantee that oil will come out of there, one because the price of oil is low and two because it is dirty oil. >> why would you approve more pipeline than you have oil? that's beyond greed to me. >> it is beyond sfgreed and bad mouth and absolutely no context so we're saying what you need to do america is clean up your mess. right now they're saying 15 to 25% of the oil we're getting in these pipelines we're wasting it, it's blowing off in these different places we need to clean the pipelines that are here and not abandon them and not build new ones. i told you about the math in north dak if you want energy self sufficientry you need to be like germany last weekend produce

what do you say to a constituent who says i don't want a person coming into this country willy-nillyd syria. >> we don't let people come in to this country willy-nilly from syria and libya. we do good vetting. >> doesn't england think that? doesn't england think they have good vetting? >> unless i'm mistaken the bomber in manchester was a uk national. >> right. >> was not being admitted as a refugee. i'll remind you that the ban that was put in place by president trump soon after he became president was against refugees coming from these exclusively majority muslim countries. the decision today by the fourth circuit court of appeals is a reminder that at times outrageous statements by then candidate donald trump that he wanted to block muslims from coming in to this country could be ascribed as the motivation behind the ban that he put in place as president and that's because this was a ban that prevented only refugees coming from muslim-majority countries not from countries based on an assessment of risk. i'll remind you, if we had a attacks by refugees happening in the united state

your point even a step further, a different issue, it seems to me, professor, than the notion of willy-nillyng the country farther apart. that is to say, because the country is so divided, unless you have a clear-cut case, unless you know this guy violated the law, unless you can make that stick, unless, again, he has violated the constitution, you don't want to be accused of a political witch hunt because you don't like the guy. >> absolutely correct. that's a fundamental thee ssis "the case of impeachment." even thousanow, when so much mo come out about the obstruction of justice and the violation of the emoluments clause. on the part of the democratic leadership, critics of donald trump should not be calling for his impeachment. they should be calling for an impeachment investigation, which is proper under the constitution to determine, as you say. whether there are serious violations of the law, serious abuses of power. egregious violations of the constitution. and only then should impeachment proceed. but unless we have an impeachment investigation, we're not going to know because the s

i'm very concerned that we don't just go off a cliff, willy—nilly, in terms of brexit, because i'm thinkingi'm waiting for grandchildren. it would be great fun if it was nigel farage, but he'll drink me under the table. hello there. can i'd reduce you to your... how about that! that's amazing. hello, you. are you well? very well. good. i have a theory which is this, actually, i don't think people cared about project fear. i don't think people care that the eurozone is going to boom and that we're going to go off a cliff. i honestly think that it's become an ideology and all they want to say is, we've got our country back without really knowing what that... the ideology is to lie to two dozen countries in europe, to tell them that they are joining an economic club and then it by bit, to take away their democracy and their independence. what, are you single, nigel? that's a very good question. a lot of people are asking. i'm not very married at the moment, let's put it like that. you're not very married. no. it's sad that your private life has fallen apart. you've done it for a noble cause. 5

so keep your head on in the public events that you know, you don't need to just run willy-nilly in every direction. think before you move. >> certainly. especially if there is confirmation in the reports initial reports we heard so far that maybe some of the 22 people who died and the 59 injured may have been injured through a stampede from that. jim, thank you. >> horrible. thanks, frances. thanks, gigi. >> we have a night of strong storms across new mexico. you can see it here. hail more than two inches in diameter coming down covering the ground along the highway. >>> i want to check in with nbc meteorologist bill karins who is following more severe weather in the southeast. what can we expect today? >> good morning. yesterday we didn't have much in the way of flash flooding with a threat continues, it's a soaking rain from alabama, mississippi through georgia and the carolinas. now as we go throughout the day over 17 million at risk of flash flooding. the flood watches from louisiana back through the carolinas. this will be today into tomorrow before it drys out. we have a chance of

i am concerned that we do not go off a cliff willy—nilly in terms of brexit because i'm thinking about be great fun if it was nigel farage, but he will drink me under the table. hello. how about that. hello. i have a theory. i don't think people cared about project fear, i don't think that people care that the eurozone is good to boom and we're going to go off at cliff, it is the common ideology and people just want to be able to say they have the country back without knowing what that means. the ideology is delighted to dozen countries in europe and to tell them they are joining an economic club and then take away their democracy and then take away their democracy and independence. are you single, nigel? that is a good question. i am not very married at the moment. nigel? that is a good question. i am not very married at the momentm is sad that your private life has fallen apart. you have done it for a noble cause. i am 53, separated and skint. coogee go to bed with a remainer —— skint. coogee go to bed with a remainer -- could you go to bed with a remainer? i am remainer -- could you

[applause] and so, john's proposal is that banks shouldn't be allowed, willy-nilly, to close their branches and leave some towns with no branches whatsoever. there's also the promotion of other banks as well. credit unions have grown a great deal in our society. i think there are a great way of helping people financially manage and help them to get credit if they needed and get loans if they need it. those things are very important : >> why didn't you choose to do that, and secondly, you've sat out plans to spending $5 billion a year and tax companies and the rich by around 50 billion pounds a year more. you've also got a program of investment and public through mail, water how much do you intend to brr borrow additionally every year? [inaudible conversations] oh, hi. so you described a independent difficult study has said that this is the biggest involvement of the government in the state since the 1970s. the last election two years ago two million more voters fell to the department too radical insufficiently irresponsible. why outside of this, between voters you will determine the electio

everybody in the intelligence community knows you cannot give it intelligence willy—nilly and if youources, and something as extremely sensitive as a potential plot in the middle east given to us by another country, if the information is the equivalent of what you read in a blog and you can differentiate between the two, we have a real problem in the white house and in our intelligence community, and other countries that rely on the united states, and we rely on the united states, and we rely on the united states, and we rely on them, are going to be very troubled by this event. senior figures today talking about whether the president is doing his homework fully enough. if senior republicans were wary of speaking out in the wake of james comey‘s dismissal, no such concerns this time. the head of the senate foreign relations committee, bob corker, a trump supporter said the allegations were troubling. very troubling, in fact, and obviously they are enabling or spiral right now. he went on to say they have to come to grips with all thatis they have to come to grips with all that is hap

no, it upsets sheldon when she willy-nilly takes it from the containers without regard for its equitableution. you want me to put it back? leonard. it upsets sheldon when you play with the sheldon. what's up, my nerdizzles? raj, sheldon, i want you to meet my girlfriend bernadette. hello. leonard, penny, you know my girlfriend bernadette. yeah. hey. (chuckles) bernadette, say fo'shizzle to my nerdizzles. i don't think i can. i don't have howard's street cred. i hope it's all right-- i told my girlfriend bernadette she could join us for dinner. sure, the more, the merrier. wa-- no, that's a false equivalency. more does not equal merry.

we can't have intelligence agencies listening to anybody, willy-nilly, without a warrant. >> sean: thiss deep and profound. trampling on fourth amendment constitutional rights here. there are laws and procedures in place here. one, brandon, klapper, rice, maybe even the president knew about this. you are the lawmaker. espionage act. at ten with the laws that could have been broken here and how dangerous it is to a free and open society. >> the main production we have in our country as you have an independent judiciary. please help to call a judge to listen to your phone call or comment your house. there's no warrant for the american. americans are being scooped up in any conversation overseas and they are searching the databank. one of the questions i asked the white house was, did anyone in president obama's administration query my name? did they look in that database and look me up specifically? did they ask to unmask me? they have these terms that sound like unmasking, how bad is that? it is the same as spying. who would you call, when you call, all of this massive data. they are abl

the fbi doesn't get to send fbi agents willy nilly into the white house. so that was interesting.ng we learned was the high degree of immediate alarm that that caused among the intelligence community and at the department of justice, causing the acting attorney general of the united states, even before the agent's full 302 report was completed, to rush up to white house council and say we've got something sensitive we have got to brief you on this. we discovered there was a second meeting with white house council the following day where they expressed further what their concerns were and off we go into this mysterious 18-day gap. >> do you have any reason to believe that the president knew about the communications with the white house council? >> yes, because spicer, sean spicer has said that the white house council, after he first heard this from the acting attorney general went and briefed the president to use spicer's word immediately. >> so if the president knew, then we start counting until something happened. why do you believe that 18 days was too long? >> i think if you ha

who is -- they try to come back, there has to be to make sure they can't just enter the country willy-nillyunds like a pseudo-travel ban, resident, greg? >> i think the terminology should be "terror ban." >> that's a good one. >> if you're in the haystack, it's hard to find a needle in the haystack. if you are the haystack, stop the needles from coming in. they missed a lot of opportunities here. the reason why, we've talked about this before, the islamic phobia phobia. people are scared of risking their reputation and being branded as a bigot. if you see something, say something? if you see something, say something, you might be called a bigot and don't. no one is judging the situations logically and they won't protest when precious resources are spent on diversity training instead of training people on how to see and stop evil. >> kimberly, apparently there may be a second bomb. we know now he had helped possibly from his brother. the brother was actually on social media posting posing wia firearm. a lot of missed opportunities. they might think there's a second bomb somewhere because the

i recognize the importance of the audit so we don't go out and willy-nilly people who should not be audited. we need statistical gathering. my thinking is that they are doing a service for the public. random audits, there may be nothing wrong with the returns at the end of the day but they're using it for data gathering. if they're doing the public service they should be paid. either that, or, maybe we do not assess the tax at the end of the audit. we found the errors but they sat through this for the public good. maybe we don't assess the tech so we found, or we give them compensation for sitting through it. i suggest that be nontaxable. >> yesterday a report was released on the national research program employment taxes. included the irs doesn't even have a formal plan to timely analyze let alone actually use the ted it collected. so, do you believe the irs should continues to subject taxpayers or guinea pigs to these random offense if there's no plants use the information? shouldn't the irs use the data. it will pay folks for the data with your suggestion, shouldn't they use it? or just

but they -- they don't i willy nilly claim a lot of things they haven't done. i would certainly -- we'd have to treat this with some kind of potential authority. but picking up on what nic said it's hard in a country like united kingdom to by explosives or dynamite. therefore you're left with the way to build this is with hydrogen per ox side explosives. we saw that in the 2005 attack in london. we've seen that in attempts in the united states and also attacks and pair russ and brussels. building that bomb is not something you can just pick up on the internet. you might be able to do it, but you'd probably blow yourself up. hydrogen peroxide bombs are unstable. they're very toxic. it's highly likely that this is a hydrogen peroxide bomb. that would also lead to where was it made? the tox is tee of t-- in the lds in 2005 bought an apartment to build the bomb and bought a refraj rart because the elements are so unstable. they're looking at where was this bomb put together and that would also lead you to how did this bomber learn how to make this? in general, it's

fire your fbi director as he's investigating your campaign and russia hacking of the election just willy nilly and they're going to want to talk to comey i am sure and jeff sessions i am sure and rob rosen stieb i am sure who wrote this letter. and let me say one other thing. the long letter detailed a lot of complaints that a lot of democrats had about james comey that he shouldn't have gone on july fifth after he cleared hillary clinton and the email controversy and said but she's reckless and he shouldn't have sent that let r and turned the election upside down. maybe that's why they weren't expecting this to be a disaster for them. but rosen stein doesn't speak for the president who, at the time these events occurred, was applauding them. so -- >> is this a firing in search of a cause? >> i thik in search of rational and it was provided by the deputy attorney general and i am sure believes it as do other people, democrat and republican. but i don't know that donald trump really believes what the deputy attorney general wrote because he was applauding comey when he said that hillary clinton

don't just make the decisions willy-nilly. if a decision is made, usually a lot of thought went into it if they publish something or not. >> often we don't report things like cnn recently with the big break that jim sciutto and manu raju and jake tapper had about the intel that the president was blamed for leaking. they were asked not to reveal certain information because of the national security import. they did not report those details. >> and a week and a half ago, the meeting in the oval office, we did not put names of the cities in that report. there is information we may know and not splash all over the pages of the newspaper or television screen based on concerns. i think we have to take into account not only -- a different culture with the government and press in every country. the standards we have here may not match the british government feels are applicable for them. you don't see the british government pointing the fingers at the culpable parties. again, i don't think the onus right now and blame is put on the jou

try to come back, there's got to be something done to make sure they can't just enter the country willy-nillysounds like a pseudo-travel ban, doesn't it, greg? >> greg: you know what? i think the terminology should be terror ban. that would work really well. >> dana: that's a good one. >> greg: yeah. if you're the haystack -- it's hard to find a needle in a haystack but if you're the haystack, at least stop the needles from coming in. islam phobia phobia. people are scared of risking the reputations of being branded as a bigot if they see something. used to be if you see something, say something. now it's if you seesay somethine called a bigot so don't! no one is judging the situations logically and they won't protest when precious resources are spent on diversity training instead of training people on how to see and stop evil. >> jesse: kimberly, apparently there may be a second bomb. >> kimberly: right. >> jesse: we know now he had help possibly from his brother. the brother was actually on social media posing with the firearm. a lot of missed opportunities. now, they think there may be a s

have been told by a number of folks in the intelligence community this is not something you do willy nilly. you don't make up and tweet out something because i'm president. there is a process to it. the example was president region declassified intelligence that the russians shot down that airliner. there was a process. he spoke to his advisors. it made strategic sense. he did it. >> that's why chris cillizza, i can hear your grandmother saying to you, don't say anything about trump getting off twitter. because what a gift to journalism and the american people it is because otherwise we would have had the cur kirbyd the world and the professionals getting out a message spin us away. the truth is very often, news is very often what the powerful want to keep hidden. this is a gift. donald trump goes against what h.r. mcmaster said in my reckoning. certainly goes against what he had rosenstein put in his memo and he gives you what his intentions really are and isn't that invaluable to journalism. >> yes, absolutely. i would say from a political advice perspective, leon is right. i encourage t

donald trump taking code word secrets that were given to us by our israeli intelligence partners and willy-nillyharing them with the russians. remember, the russians are also very close to the iranians and the bashar al assad regime. that places at risk the sources and methods that the israelis have developed and at risk the united states, because he's compromising american security by doing that. the russians -- yes, it's true that we do have some overlap of interest in some areas with the russians. but they are not our friends. they are the people who interfered with our election and undermined our democracy and are committing war crimes in syria. >> thank you, gentlemen. i appreciate it. now i want to bring in the national security correspondent for "the washington post" and cnn political commentator alice stewart. thank you both for joining us. you broke the news in "the washington post" today. tell us what you learned. >> well, what we learned was that there was a meeting in june 2016 of the republican leaders. it was a meeting that took place after the ukrainian prime minister had met with

none of that is a justification by donald trump taking secrets and willy-nilly sharing them with the russians. because remember the russianerize very close to the iranians, very close to the bashar al assad regime. that places at risk the united states because he is compromising american security by doing that. the russians, yes, it's true we have some area of overlap, but they're not our friends. they're people who have interfered in our election, undermined our democracy. >> i've got another group coming up. this has got to be the last word. thank you beth for joining us. adam, you broke the news in the "the washington post" today, so tell us what you learned. >> well, what we learned is there was a meeting in june 2016 of the republican leaders. it was a meeting that took place after the ukrainian prime minister had met with these leaders and described the russian interference in crew cranian politics. and that led kevin mckarkty, the majority leader on the house side to make a comment, an extraordinary comment that basically he thinks that putin pays two poom here, dana ror balke

stored in a data base and what matters is how we treat that data and we protect it and don't use it willy-nilly and i don't know how we would operate otherwise. and that is -- i don't know how we would operate otherwise. i think what the american people want us to do is make sure we hold it to connect dots if it it turns out there is something bad in there but treat it like the information that it is, protect it and make sure it is handled in a responsible way. >> thank you mr. chairman. director, let me -- let me tell you a story about a hundred years ago, literally, my italian grandparents and my irish grand parents faced discrimination because of their religion. now that discrimination wasn't violence, it was economic. this is not unusual in this country at that time. i like to think that's gone. i like to think of my grandparents, italian grandparents, irish grandparents the discrimination because of their race and religion is not here but now we see an alarming rise of hate crimes in minorities and yesterday this committee heard important testimony from the department of justice, from the

let's also remember, the feds are not just plucking people off the street willy-nilly.f you come to the attention of i.c.e. authorities it is because there is a reason. if we don't work hand in glove together, we will never solve this problem, that is what i think. >> this new bill is going to allow officers now to make up a reason to stop people then question them about their legal status. that is actually wrong. number two, yes, i agree, don't let undocumented immigrants who are violet out on the street, but if it is so important, get a warrant. get a warrant. get a warrant if you have an issue. >> if you think cops have the time to make up reasons to stop people instead of just stopping people -- because >> they do that now. they do that now. it is called racial profiling. >> jon: you can see why this issue is browsing so much attention in the state of texas. we will continue to keep an eye on this story and let our viewers know what happens there. thank you both. >> jenna: in the meantime, back to the breaking news out of texas today. in an area of dallas, southeast

you can't just willy-nilly go ahead and release that kind of information. >> well, of course not, and if president trump had stood up and revealed just to the public just what he did in a classified setting with those foreign leaders that he wanted to discuss those things with, we could have this argument about whether it was appropriate to disclose publicly. that's not what he did. look, again, i come back to here there's a weasel here, and the weasel is not the.of the united states. it's the traitor who disclosed these facts "the washington post." i wish you'd go out and interview "the washington post" and ask them to disclose who that is. >> those are confidence, sources as you well know. senator, let me get into it very quickly into another aspect, this entire controversy comes as the president is preparing for his first foreign trip. he leaves friday for saudi arabia. >> right. >> and then he's going to jerusalem. it will include a stop in israel, as you know. >> right. >> so far, this is very sensitive. the white house has refused to say whether the trump administration believes

say that donald trump has a long-term strategy when it comes north korea, when he goes out there, willy-nillyuld be honored to meet with a murderous dictator, breaking decades and decades of u.s. foreign policy toward that country. >> martha: we'll see. got to leave it there. thank you very much. good to see you both. also, a story that reads like a real life "homeland." an fbi agent marries her isis target. we'll take you behind the scenes of this very disturbing story coming up next. plus, president trump since two of his top lieutenants to press briefings to defend his new budget deal, as some grassroots conservatives argue they are not happy. they feel like the g.o.p. has given up way too much in these early stages. mollie hemingway and austan goolsbee here to debate the real winners and losers in all of this. straight ahead. >> they wanted a shutdown. we know that. they were desperate to make this administration look like they couldn't function, like they couldn't govern. ♪ due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat not caused by a heart valve problem. but no matter what path i take, i g

i recognize the importance of these audits so we don't go out and willy-nilly audit people that shouldn't be audited. we need a statistical gathering thing. my thinking about taxpayers being guinea pigs is they are doing a service for the public. as a random audit there may be nothing wrong with their returns but the irs is using it for data gathering. if they are doing that they should be paid. either that, maybe we don't assess the tax at the end of the audit. we found the error, but they did it for the public good so maybe we don't assess the tax we found or give them compensation for sitting through it and i suggest that be nontaxable so we don't -- >> let me ask you this. yesterday there was a report on the national research program on employment taxes and the irs doesn't have a single plan to timely analyze and use the data collected. do you believe the irs should continue to subject taxpayers come in your words guinea pigs, to this burdens and random audit if there is no plan to use the information? should the irs use the data? to pay folks for the data as you suggest, shouldn't th

it doesn't happen and it doesn't given out willy-nilly. there has to be a reason. >> or suspicion. >> a suspicion. a reason to have a suspicion. >> you have done some extensive reporting on carter page and his ties to russia. what stood out to you? >> i mean, his complete evasiveness is what stands out. his unwillingness to say i was in russia and -- he doesn't know who he is meeting with there at best. best case scenario. there are people in the crowd who may be connected to russian intelligence. he doesn't seem willing to acknowledge that. this -- i give a lot of speeches in russia. why would they be interested in me? things that don't add up. you have to be -- why are you telling us this? what you are saying is two plus two equals 28. that alone makes it -- >> is he somebody -- from everything i have researched on him, it doesn't seem as if his business dealings are so extensive or high level. merrill lynch where he worked, his former boss there says he exaggerated at another company worked, a former president of the company he lasted f

i also recognize the importance of these audits so we don't go out and willy-nilly audit people that shouldn't be audited. in my thinking about this they are actually doing a service for the public. they are random audits and there may be nothing wrong at the end of the day but they're using it for data gathering. if they're doing that, they should be paid. either that or either and, maybe we don't assess the tax at the end of the audit. we found the errors but they factor this for the public good so maybe we don't assess the tax that we found or we give them compensation for sitting through it. i suggest that compensation be nontaxable. >> yesterday ga released a report on the national research program and employment taxes and they concluded the irs doesn't even have a formal plan to use the data it collects. do you believe the irs should continue to subject taxpayers, guinea pigs in your words, to these burdensome random acces audits if they don't plan to use the data. they use it or shouldn't they shut down the program? >> i don't think they should shut down the program. they need

officials reach out to me tonight to push back on the idea that the president can declassify anything willy-nilly. yes, he can, there's nothing illegal about it. in terms of the way it is done, it's not just the president can fly off and reveal classified information and it's all okay. they say there's a process, it must be streechbategic and the example they give, david would now this better than me, was 1983, russians shoot down kao007. president reagan after a process made a decision to reveal the signals intelligence that gave the u.s. confidence that it was russia who shot down the plane. he conferred with his advisers and made a strategic choice. to announce something without that kind of process to a country such as russia, intel officials describe to me more disclosure than a declassification. >> it's dangerous. go on, david gergen. >> we need to be very clear if anyone else in the government dis-clo clowclosed information to the russians as described, it would be a crime and that person would go to jail. the only examplempt, the presid of the united states from those laws. we do that bec

i think that's not something, when it involves a major presidential campaign, that they do willy-nilly. and i think they're justified in continuing that investigation. but, unfortunately, i can't go into the particulars. >> brangham: let's turn about that big ruckus we hear behind you. a huge piece of news today, that the g.o.p. was successful in passing their piece of health care legislation. i know you voted against it. what was your reaction to what happened today? >> well, my predominant reaction is it's a sad day, i think, for this institution when we would vote and effectively cut off millions of people from access to health care. and when you have the kind of massive cuts to medicaid that are in this bill, when you're essentially telling states they can do away with protections for people who have pre-existing health concerns you're voting for legislation that you know or should know will mean that millions of lose their access to health care. we ought to be sad about it. i don't think the republicans should be celebrating at the white house about it. and i will say this, too, i

to just willy-nilly throw something out there and potentially burn an ally without having discussed it with your team while technically legally think is problematic snif congressman adam kinzinger, thanks very much for taking the time. >> you bet. take care. >> coming up, a friend and former colleague of james comey will speak to us about those members and a member of the house intelligence committee will give us an update on the russia investigation. plus, does obstruction of justice apply to the accusations against the president? we'll get some legal analysis to help answer those difficult questions and that's next. let's see, there are the wildcats 'til we die weekenders. the watch me let if fly. this i gotta try weekenders. then we've got the bendy... ... spendy weekenders. the tranquility awaits. hanging with our mates weekenders and the it's been quite a day... ...so glad we got away weekenders. whatever kind of weekender you are, there's a hilton for you. book your weekend break direct at hilton.com and join the weekenders. a lower a1c is a lot witabout choices.tes but it can be

from donald trump at the top, we have the commander in chief, the president of the united states willy-nillyg out intelligence to adversaries. i think that when you model that kind of behavior for your administration, this is the kind of thing that happens, and it's absolutely absurd. frankly, dangerous to put our national security at risk. this is very disappointing behavior from a administration. >> martha: last thought. >> donald trump has been warning for months about the danger of leaks coming out. it's not just those leaks, but it's leaks of his phone calls with world leaders, all sorts of intelligence coming out. he's been warning and warning and warning and people exact nursing is just to distract from russia. now he sang the national security invocations of this and no one was taking it seriously, but now the theresa may british prime ministers saying that we would donald trump is saying, maybe we'll finally take it seriously. >> martha: thank you very much. good to see. still still ahead tonight, a high school senior band from her graduation because she is pregnant. why is planned

appeared what matters is how we treat the data and that we are careful with it and do not use it willy-nilly, we protected it in important ways. that's true whether it is 702 art collected domestically. i don't know how we would operate otherwise. i don't know how we would operate otherwise get i think with the american people want us to do is make sure we hold it so that we can connect that's if there is something that in there, but treat it like that personal information it is, protect and make sure it is handled in a responsible way. >> thank you. >> thank you mr. chairman. director, let me -- let me tell you a story. about 100 years ago, literally, my italian grandparents and my irish grandparents faced discrimination because of their religion. that discrimination was nonviolent, it was economic. not unusual in this country at that time. i like to think that is gone. i like to think of my grandparents, italian grandparents, irish grandparents, discrimination they have faced because of both their race and religion is not here. but now we see an alarming rise in hate crimes among minority

with people, and for all of the stories, the real stories that we know of him, you know, sort of willy-nilly firing people, getting rid of people when he's done with them, he also does feel a sense of loyalty. so, was it that, or was it something that we just don't know the answer to? >> hold on one second. i'm just getting some news in my ear. we need to head to the pentagon. barbara starr has breaking news coming in on michael flynn. barbara, what do you have? >> reporter: well, good morning, kate. what we are learning here is that when michael flynn was working for the trump white house and he was talking to the obama administration officials during the transition, the obama administration discussed with flynn a couple of matters about syria, about the plan to fight isis. what they talked about was this plan that the obama administration had to retake raqqah, the capital of isis, which is one of the key goals in the fight against that organization. flynn pretty much, according to sources we're talking to, put that plan on hold. now, why did he put it on hold? that's going to wind up being

and but i also recognize the importance of these audits so that we don't go out and willy-nilly audit people that shouldn't be audited. we need some kind of statistical gathering thing. and my thinking about these taxpayers being guinea pigs is they are actually doing a service for the public. threes are random audits, there may be nothing wrong with their returns at the end of the day but the irs is using it for data gathering. if they're doing that public service they should be paid. and either that, or either/and maybe we don't assess the tax at the end of the audit. you know were we found the errors, but they've sat through this for the public good and so maybe we don't assess the tax that we found, or we give them compensation for sitting through it. and i would suggest that that computation be nontaxable. so we don't, you know, insult them. >> let me ask you this. yesterday gao released a report on the national research program and employment taxes and the gao concluded that irs doesn't even have a formal plan that timely analyze let alone actually use the data it collected. so

went through the bureaucratic process to do declassification, that would be one thing, but he just willy-nillydecided to disclose highly classified information, and this is is not what we expect from someone who spent the entire campaign complaining about the disclosure of information from hillary clinton. >> what i'm hearing from some folks is this is part of the learning curve. maybe the president didn't know he shouldn't disclose it. at what point, kayleigh, do we hit the expiration date on that excu excuse? >> i think everyone should back up before we know the facts. john mccain was not in that meeting. you, keith, were not in that meeting. people in the meeting said it was a responsible use of information. h.r. mcmaster who democrats have been praising, said this is a response -- >> why are they contradicting -- >> they are not contradicting -- >> why is the president saying something different than the white house? >> they're not. they're saying we dealt with threats to aviation -- >> h.r. mcmaster will clear that out -- >> where are the tapes? >> do you think he should say if there are

it can sometimes be a divisive battle and statement among more conservative members don't like willy-nillymit to find a fundamental way to address this. even the mt. said sometimes that might be constructive to push the government to the brink. congressman tom reed on the house ways and means committee, republican from new york. congressman, what do you think of that this report that the treasury secretary wants to talk about the debt limit, have this sing settled earlier rather than later so everyone is not on the brink of the trying to raise this thing in the middle of the proactive preventative way. that i think is responsible way to govern. neil: when he is saying just a simple debt limit hike, don't attach anything to it, just raise it what you do you say, are you for that? we find oursels in represented in the debt ceiling limit itself. neil: are you afraid that some of your democratic colleagues, for example, they say they have offered republicans an olive branch to go ahead and they would support a debt limit increase so that other things could get done. if this goats to be heated

able to understand, you ought to change behavior, now is not the time to talk about firing people willy nillydy steady and focus on what you're doing and get things moving in the right direction which the foreign trip gives him a chance to do. look, he has done really well in these meetings with foreign leaders. what i hear back from sort of the foreign affairs community, most of the foreign leaders say, wow, i had a productive meeting, he listen today me, well briefed, he we wanted to find out what i thought, he paid attention to what i said, he showed flexibility on things that i was worried about. he has a chance -- saudi arabia, they're desperate to have the united states that has resolution resolve and determination to fight isis and to stair down iran. israel, long-time ally, visit to italy maybe more problematic because politics is so upset but he's going to go visit with the pope, we will hear about the things that he said bad about the pope last year and then he will go to the meetings with foreign leaders and my sense is that we are going to be surprised in a week or so to find that

neil: the position that they're going too far, willy-nilly cutting or not looking how they're cuttingissue. each party tried to do this at various times to little avail. reporter: that is absolutely right. people think you will you cut it, but how, when and where? if the republicans show how the dollars are abused yet pen again do it in clear way they could gain support by it. otherwise it looks like taking food out of the mouths of people who can't afford it. neil: do you look at this battle back and forth over preexisting conditions, i guess the wrinkle in the house plan that was sent to the senate is that they have coverage for preexisting conditions but with a wink and a nod, they say well, states will decide that. if you have a preexisting condition your coverage lapses you could pay a hell of a lot more for the policy but it isn't such a sure thing, what is the deal with that? >> it is not such a sure thing, relying on something called high-risk pools and how much we fund that by. the reason democrats have knee-jerk reaction with high-risk pools, they have been so poor in the pa