he is -- goes to lake academy, which is out in willoughby hills. he goes to an academy that is for troubled teens. my niece goes to the same school. she knew of him and she said he was nice and polite to her. never thought that he would do anything like this. he was a dark kid. didn't really talk to a lot of kids, but she rode the bus with him every day and they talked. she didn't think this could ever happen. >> any sense of anything abnormal about him other than being at that school? >> no. you know, like you said, hard time with his parents. living with his grandma and you know, kind of a loner. >> and did she know anything about him ever having a gun or talking about guns? that might have been something that would never come up. i'm just curious. >> my daughter didn't, but my niece did say that he did talk about that he did like to hunt. so that i know is true. >> your niece who knew him. and what is your daughter doing tonight? i can only imagine she's in complete shock along with all the other kids who were there today. >> she went over to he