wiltshire police of the manikin _ going slowly. wiltshire police of the manikin is _ going slowly. police officer, so as long as it�*s not a hazard, he is found to be on patrol. and many believe he is real, so not great at helping lost motorists but his effect on calming speedin motorists but his effect on calming speed in this village is very real. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. here are just some of the celebrities, singers, sporstmen and personalities who left us in 2023 — gianluca vialli, sinead o�*connor, paco rabanne, shane macgowan, silvio berlusconi. and to mark their passing, lest we forget what we have lost, the new european closes every year with a front—page cover crammed full with their faces in the style of the sgt pepper front cover. it�*s titled the departed. it is an unfathomable array of talent and truly an all—ecompassing work of art. you definitely need a magnifying glass to do itjustice, but i promise you, once you start, you will not be able to stop. it draws you in as you move from one face to another. it is the work of bri

0ur correspondent danjohnson has been to swindon in wiltshire to find out.good morning. this is swindon�*s voice. good morning. i think we should look after them. from streets that typically reflect the national mood. why not rwanda? why not? it's not a bad place. we are not sending them to a prison. so what about this controversial plan, deemed unlawful? i think it makes us cruel. i think it makes us unkind. but pursued to please people in towns like this. we need to help ourselves within england before we start helping others. we've got the barbers are kurdish and next door is chinese. havelock street has changed in the a0 years vince has cut keys here. but his national pride is etched in memorials engraved forfallen soldiers. we've got to be protective of what we've got on this island. i feel that they've come in here illegally, they are being treated fair and now we are saying, we've got nowhere to put you but, whilst we are dealing with you, rwanda is the place to be. and from nairobi they came to england. across the road, there's deeper unease. what do

today, this area of low pressure has brought quite a bit of rain, especially towards parts of wiltshire, dorset, somerset. that heavy rain moved eastwards, will stay cloudy and quite showery for many parts of england and wales. still quite a bit of snow over the higher ground of scotland and northern england. showers coming in here, but sunny spells for much of scotland and northern ireland. maximum temperatures this afternoon 6-8. maximum temperatures this afternoon 6—8. through this evening, we continue with that cloud. outbreaks of patchy rain across many parts of england and wales, particularly heavy towards the north—east of england. there could be a little wintriness over the high ground, but with clear skies over scotland and northern ireland, here we will see a frost. england and wales, temperatures about 3—6. during tuesday, we continue with a lot of cloud, some drizzle and showers and places. gradually, that clears towards the east. there will be lovely sunshine across scotland and northern ireland, but it stays quite cold on tuesday. temperatures 3—4 — five celsius. across en

the stonehenge in wiltshire. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1] government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england. a hearing will begin in the high court tomorrow . that's the high court tomorrow. that's the high court tomorrow. that's the news. this is gb news across the news. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> good evening. yes, i'm back after a very long and extended break, but it wasn't exactly a holiday. i of course, have been in australia . i began by staying in australia. i began by staying in australia. i began by staying in alice springs and filming in the outback and then after a couple of days went into the jungle.

voted overwhelmingly to legalize same sex marriage since then goes to a wedding planners, jewels wiltshire and catherine goods of almost had more homosexual than heterosexual customers. business you? which space sometimes just for you around facing each other with the readings and your fires and every single, the exchanging of rings will be done here. all your guests will be seated on the terrace looking out this way. so over stays in the back in the letter. i'm amazed at how progressive catholic multis approaches to transgender it's almost sexual issues in the spartacus gate travel index, the island is ranked as one of the most elegy bt friendly countries in europe. meeting clayton, mexico, and l. g, b, t i q, community organizer to find out more see, catholic church is very selection here on uh, on mazda um, how is that affecting on that? would you be tied to rights? i would say since the 2011 ford center for in the show that people want to move on and have the rights to do far as this kind of changed the mentality even for the church to not be so focused on, on purchasing the speed of w

the stonehenge in wiltshire. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1] government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england. a hearing will begin in the high court tomorrow . that's the high court tomorrow. that's the high court tomorrow. that's the news. this is gb news across the news. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . this is britain's news channel. >> good evening. yes, i'm back after a very long and extended break, but it wasn't exactly a holiday. i of course, have been in australia . i began by staying in australia. i began by staying in australia. i began by staying in alice springs and filming in the outback and then after a couple of days went into the jungle.

families the bradys in wiltshire, both parents working full time with two young children forced out of their home for 15 years by a no-fault eviction living in their van or 11-year-old leah walker homeless this christmas. he wrote a letter to santa saying please can i have a forever home? i don't want any new toys, i just want all my old toys out of storage, i just want us to be happy again. is there any things that could shame this government into putting the country first, surely this little boy. >> mr. speaker, if he really cared about building homes, no, no, no, if he really cared about building homes, when there was an opportunity in this house, mr. speaker, in this house, to back the plan and unlock one hundred thousand new homes, mister speaker, what did he do, what did he do? he went in front of the cameras and said one thing, a shameless opportunity. >> thank you, mr. speaker. mister speaker, is that really his christmas message? he just can't be -- >> please. it is christmas. i want a little bit of silence and i'm going to get it one way or the other. he just can't see the co

wiltshire police say the mannequin isn't impersonating a police officer, so as long as it's not a hazardd many believe he's real. so not great at helping lost motorists, but his effect on calming speed in this village is very real. for more stories from across the uk, head to the bbc news website. you're live with bbc news. the uk government has changed its plans raise the minimum salary needed to be earned in order to bring foreign family members to live in the uk. currently, applicants need to earn just over £18,500 to apply for a family visa. this was due to rise to almost £39,000 in april. however, a new government document suggests this rate would be lowered to £29,000 in its initial implementation. our political correspondent ione wells has more on what these changes mean for both british citizens and migrants working in the uk. well, what this change means is that effectively when it comes into force in the spring, it will now mean that somebody who is settled in the uk or a british citizen in the uk who wants to bring a family member or a dependent to come and live with them, wil

another solstice ushered in by wiltshire's famous monument.humphrey in washington, dc. plenty more at the top of the hour but you can go to a website, bbc.com/news, or follow me on x. more on the way at the top of the hour. i'll see you then. bye for now. hello there. christmas, for most of us, looks likely to be a mild one. in fact, on friday we had a pretty typical story, quite a lot of cloud around and temperatures 13 degrees across the south coast. but look at this, in the northern isles, just a daytime maximum of one celsius. and yes, there were some snow showers as well. that's because the far northeast of scotland stuck in this cold air. this weather front the dividing line between cloudy and milder conditions down to the south. but as that weather front bumps into the cold air, we're likely to see some snow, 2—10 centimetres forming across higher ground. gradually, that snow will revert back to rain through the day, some of it quite heavy across western and central scotland. cloudier, damp conditions at further south and west. the best

our correspondent anna collinson has spent time with a family in wiltshire who has struggled to findcan struggled to find the level of care they need for their son.— they need for their son. can you make john _ they need for their son. can you make john a _ they need for their son. can you make john a cup _ they need for their son. can you make john a cup of _ they need for their son. can you make john a cup of tea? - they need for their son. can you make john a cup of tea? i - they need for their son. can you make john a cup of tea? i will. they need for their son. can you | make john a cup of tea? i will get makejohn a cup of tea? i will get him up and into his chair. make john a cup of tea? i will get him up and into his chair.- make john a cup of tea? i will get him up and into his chair. from the moment 39-year-old _ him up and into his chair. from the moment 39-year-old john - him up and into his chair. from the moment 39-year-old john wakes, l him up and into his chair. from the l moment 39-year-old john wakes, he him up and into his chair. from the - moment 39-year-old john w

people with complex disabilities in the uk. 0ur correspondent anna collinson has met a family in wiltshire can you makejohn a cup of tea? i've got to getjohn up and into his chair. from the moment 39—year—old john wakes, he is reliant on his stepmum. put your arm over to mum. john is full of life, full of laughter. he deals with everything with good humour. brain damaged at birth, after a long battle he is entitled to nhs funded care worth £8,000 a week. totally dependent on other people. he can't feed himself, he can have seizures. he needs highly skilled carers 21w, but chronic staff shortages means that is just not happening. there is a care crisis in this country. you can't get the care that is needed. you can have your tea now. suzanne covers more than 140 hours a week every week. i was just wondering what it's like not having the sort of care that you need. horrible. anna and daughter lucy cover week days, means suzanne picks up early mornings, nights, weekends. you have the suction machine in there, becausejohn can choke. feeding him, all his therapies, every day we do all that. we

the next stage of the roll—out will see gp practices in gloucestershire, wiltshire and north somerset hour around north wales, but that was all because of storm elin, which has cleared away to the east, and today we have this area of cloud moving in all linked into storm fergus, which is mostly going to affect the republic of ireland. there will be little if any impact of the uk, but we will have some rain moving and spreading north and eastwards across many areas. the winds are strengthening later around those irish sea coasts, but here is that rain, and as we go through this afternoon, it will continue to push into scotland, but clearing for much of england and wales, some sunshine across wales, the midlands and through southern areas of england, a bit of sunshine for a time in northern ireland before further showers moving. temperatures about 7 or 8 degrees in the north, 11 to m celsius further south. stay in that sunshine, that will feel fairly pleasant. now, through to night, the area of low pressure, storm fergus, will continue to move eastward. there could be some strengthening

our correspondent anna collinson has spent time with a family in wiltshire, who are strugging to findm the moment 39—year—old john wakes, he is reliant on his stepmum. put your arm over to mum and roly poly. john is full of life, full of laughter. he deals with everything with good humour. brain—damaged at birth, after a long battle, he's entitled to nhs—funded care, worth £8,000 a week. he's totally dependent on other people. he can't feed himself, can have seizures, he can't drink. move up a little bit. he needs highly skilled carers 24/7 but that's a huge challenge. there is a care crisis in this country. you can't get the care that is needed. and wherejohn lives in a rural part of south west england... you can have your tea now. ..they have some of the biggest staff shortages for home care in the country. it's left suzanne covering more than 140 hours a week every week — exhausting. when was the last time you had a good night's sleep, would you say? i can't remember. exhausting. when was the last time you had a good night's sleep, would you say? i can't remember. it's hard forjohn

the save in wiltshire. the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 to speed up journeys in the south—west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow . that's the news from tomorrow. that's the news from gb news across the uk on tv , in gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel all . thank you, polly. >> now we start with yet another huge setback for rishi sunak and his hopes of sending migrants to rwanda . the influential european rwanda. the influential european research group has said the plans to revive the scheme with emergency legislation do not go far enough. well let's go straight now to our political edhon straight now to our political editor, christopher hope. chris as we feared this would be the next result. we called it last week on this show , it simply wee

making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a tunnel next to stonehenge in wiltshirehe save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £i.7 challenging the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme. billion pound scheme , scheme. billion pound scheme, describing it as vandalism . the describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england . a court south—west of england. a court heanng south—west of england. a court hearing will be held tomorrow in the high court. that's the hearing will be held tomorrow in the high court . that's the news the high court. that's the news from gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . the britain's news channel. the safety of rwanda bill faces serious difficulties. >> the minister in charge of the bill, formerly robert jenrick , bill, formerly robert jenrick, says it is fatally flawed. the former h

making a last ditch effort to block controversial plans to build a tunnel next to stonehenge in wiltshire. the save stonehenge world heritage site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1] government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a3 and three aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england . a hearing south—west of england. a hearing will be held in the high court tomorrow year with gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel. thank you for that, polly, our michelle dewberry with you till seven. >> and alongside me, the giant journalist and parliamentary sketchwriter quentin letts and a senior lecturer at queen mary university of london. richard johnson i'm going to create like a little spin off programme, which is just the panellists reaction to the headlines because quite amusing. because it is quite amusing. quentin was just pointing out to us there what in that news us ther

the save stonehenge wiltshire.age site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england. a hearing will be held at the high court tomorrow . this at the high court tomorrow. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> well, welcome along. busy hour coming your way. let's start with this. the rwanda plan is a complete and utter sham. it is a complete and utter sham. it is a complete and utter sham. it is a distraction technique to take your eye off what you can see happening right now, right in front of you. you've been lied to about legal immigration for countless prime for years. countless prime ministers home secretaries ministers and home secretaries have told they will get it have told you they will get it under

the save stonehenge wiltshire.age site group is challenging the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism. the plans will overhaul eight miles of the a303 aimed at speeding up journey times across the south—west of england. a hearing will be held at the high court tomorrow . this at the high court tomorrow. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> well, welcome along. busy hour coming your way. let's start with this. the rwanda plan is a complete and utter sham. it is a complete and utter sham. it is a complete and utter sham. it is a distraction technique to take your eye off what you can see happening right now, right in front of you. you've been lied to about legal immigration for countless prime for years. countless prime ministers home secretaries ministers and home secretaries have told they will get it have told you they will get it under

um, and she then had wiltshire. um, and she then had christmas with her family.s going to be a bit of a squeeze. we may remember that, uh, prince prince harry complained on one occasion that he had a very small bedroom. he took this a grave bedroom. he took this as a grave insult. so, i mean, it's going to be a quite tight house party. the interesting thing is it will be slightly less formal than it was , because the queen was was, because the queen was a stickler protocol more stickler for protocol and more relaxed are interesting . relaxed are interesting. >> nice to be a fly on the wall. it's also testament to camilla, by the way, because when she first came on the scene after, uh, the diana situation with charles, um, she was obviously pubuc charles, um, she was obviously public enemy number one, and she's a remarkable job to she's done a remarkable job to reinvent image . reinvent her image. >> she's now, as far as >> and she's now, as far as i can understand. and, uh, according to some polls , one of according to some polls, one of the most popular royals g

, both the bradys in wiltshire, both parents working full time with two young children forced out ofheir home of 15 years by a no fault eviction and now living in their van or 11 year old liam walker homeless this christmas , walker homeless this christmas, he wrote a letter to santa saying, please, can i have a forever home? i don't want any new toys . i just want all my old new toys. i just want all my old toys out of storage. i just want us to be happy again. is there anything that could shame this government into putting the country first? then it surely this little boy here. >> mr speaker , if he really >> mr speaker, if he really cared about building homes. no, no, no , no, no, no, no. no, no, no, no, no, no. >> if he really cared about building homes when there was an opportunity in this house. >> mr speaker , in this house, to >> mr speaker, in this house, to back our plans to reform defective eu laws to unlock 100,000 new homes. mr speaker , 100,000 new homes. mr speaker, what did he do? what did he do? he went in front of the cameras and said one thing and came in here and

so there is reports, of course , as an air is reports, of course, as an air base in wiltshire , the moderimeters. i expect that if perimeters. i do expect that if this gets through the commons and lords, then where the flights take off from what time in the day probably , let's say in the day probably, let's say in the day probably, let's say in the day probably, let's say in the middle of the night, to try and do it without anyone watching. but will become watching. but that will become a big space and big contested space and protesters will will try get protesters will will try and get involved. i imagine. it's involved. i imagine. so it's another thing the government must it's must deal with. but it's a controversial policy . this controversial policy. this policy not in in the policy rwanda was not in in the party's manifesto . it was set party's manifesto. it was set there , but by by boris johnson there, but by by boris johnson as prime minister, followed through by mr sunak. so yeah , through by mr sunak. so yeah, there could be issues. but i think , you know, i think the mod thi

our correspondent anna collinson has spent time with a family in wiltshire, who are strugging to findthis country. you can't get the care that is needed. and wherejohn lives in a rural part of south west england... you can have your tea now. ..they have some of the biggest staff shortages for home care in the country. it's left suzanne covering more than 140 hours a week every week — exhausting. when was the last time you had a good night's sleep, would you say? i can't remember. it's hard forjohn too. i was just wondering what it's like not having the sort of care that you need. horrible. john wants to stretch us, then steve can come in and film. 0k. can you keep showing your good side? you haven't got one. this is what good care looks like. feel all right? anna and daughter lucy cover weekdays, leaving too many hours without that specialist complex care. i've got the suction machine in there asjohn can choke. feeding him, all these therapies. every day we do all that. in a moment, they go downhill very quickly. yeah. that's a lot of pressure. yeah. we do it. we do it because we care

the save stonehenge wiltshire.ng the government's decision to back a £1.7 billion scheme, describing it as vandalism . vandalism. i think we should have somebody in who's objecting to this tunnel at stonehenge and sort of seeing why what harm is that doing? they're going to divert the traffic underground , what the traffic underground, what they think is going to shake the foundations of stonehenge, i suppose , sort of revered area , suppose, sort of revered area, isn't it? >> there's lots of ley lines because there's all those sun worshippers and things that solstice worshippers, people . i solstice worshippers, people. i don't know if that's the reason, though , but it's still gridlock though, but it's still gridlock along there. so they do need to do something. and it just feels like my entire career we've talked about this story and we've moved a bit like we've never moved on a bit like hs2. know, one those hs2. you know, one of those transport stories that just comes round every few months. >> transport >> i m

, um, and with her wiltshire, um, and with her family .re this year. her grandchildren and her children and so on. so, um, it's going to be quite a different sort of christmas , as you say, the royal christmas, as you say, the royal family will be going and there they are from an earlier year to saint mary magdalene church , saint mary magdalene church, which is within the grounds of, of sandringham house. i used to cover that in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s, and in those days there used to be perhaps a couple of dozen, uh, royal supporters there. but now it's a major event. people drive from all over the country just to see them to church . i think that them go to church. i think that was the diana effect in was partly the diana effect in the 1980s started to go there. and then, of course, there'll be a wonderful christmas dinner. uh, there will be probably, in fact, almost certainly be having a norfolk turkey down here in suffolk. i shall be having a suffolk. i shall be having a suffolk turkey from yew tree farm , by the way. i just t

staff wiltshire police say they were called to a house in park lane at 3 pm. today to reports of a woman'sd another woman injured. both women were pronounced dead . a 68 women were pronounced dead. a 68 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of two counts of murder , almost a quarter of murder, almost a quarter of britons tried and failed to see their gp face to face in 2023, with many resorting to diy treatments . that's according to treatments. that's according to the lib dems . a poll the lib dems. a poll commissioned by the party found 23% could not get an appointment in their local area, while 3 in 10 gave up booking altogether1 in 7 treated themselves or asked someone else to, and the same number went to a&e party leader sir ed davey said the figures should serve as an urgent wake up call for ministers asleep on the job. britain's new year celebrations is just an hour away, but the party's already started in other parts of the . world. happy new year to germany , happy new year to germany, france, uae, hong kong and australia. hong kong celebrated with a huge fireworks display o

shortest day of the year and to celebrate thousands of people have been gathering at stonehenge in wiltshireter solstice. sunrise was 8:09 this morning and because it's the shortest day we'll set just after 4 pm. as the earth's axis tilts at its very farthest from the sun. it's one of the few occasions where english heritage will allow people to gather freely among the ancient structures at stonehenge , spring structures at stonehenge, spring is on its way . structures at stonehenge, spring is on its way. this structures at stonehenge, spring is on its way . this is gb news is on its way. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> thank you polly. right, let's get stuck into today's christmas menu . do we start with the menu. do we start with the government's controversial u—turn on migrant visas ? u—turn on migrant visas? ministers have rowed back on plans to increase the amount of money that britons need to bring foreign family members to live in the uk , to £38,700. the in the uk

bbc radio wiltshire breakfast... with ben prater. good morning. this is swindon's voice.llegally. they're being treated fair. and now we're saying we've got nowhere to put you but whilst we're dealing with you, rwanda is the place to be. and from nairobi, they came to england. across the road, there's deeper unease. what do you think about the way this country welcomes people from overseas? i think sometimes it's over welcome. you know, we're open hands to everybody. but the person in england who lives here that needs help _ doesn't get that help. how long have you lived in swindon? a growing population hasn't stopped the high street struggling. it's gone. marks and spencers here have gone. and despite all the closed shops, i there are loads of vacancy notices. we need people. give me a sense of where you think the government is on on immigration at the moment? they're clueless. utterly clueless. they don't seem to have a plan. all they seem to do is go around shouting, "stop the boats." - have you heard about this plan to fly people to rwanda? they're going to process cl

tit seems, kirwiltshire, but e down , it seems, in wiltshire, but that lot more fencing that requiress trying to stop flights taking off. this will be a battle, even if we get to the point where it gets can happen gets legal and can happen through the commons house through the commons and house of lords may, lords by maybe april or may, then battle will be. will then the battle will be. will flights be allowed to take off? this is popular out this policy is popular out there, away from twitter , away there, away from twitter, away from people who are concerned about it. maybe on the left of politics country , people politics in this country, people want to see action, to try and tackle small boat arrivals. tackle the small boat arrivals. is numbers. it's is illegal numbers. it's worrying. the pm, the pm said in a a conference this weekend. a in a conference this weekend. a right wing conference with giorgia meloni and the italian premier , he made very clear he's premier, he made very clear he's worried about the numbers taking off. he said it could overwhelm parts of europe and that

them are from london, some have come from different parts of the country and including some from wiltshirereserved. it needs to stay exactly as it is now. it is a fresh challenge. stonehenge and this road challenge. it's not the first time this they were back here in court in 2021, and they're back again today. and they say simply , we shouldn't have to keep coming back here. now, dozens of campaigners have been here at the high court. some of them have gone back inside now and others are still outside just sheltering from the rain. and they argue that if plans go ahead, it could put the sites world heritage status at risk and describe the move as vandalism . um, now we've heard vandalism. um, now we've heard from national highways who are leading this project and they say we acknowledge there is a clear process for any legal challenge to take place and that they remain confident that the scheme is the best solution for tackling long standing bottleneck when it comes to traffic. now they argue that if a tunnel is put in underground near the site of stonehenge, it could save people almost u

the next stage of the roll—out will see gp practices in gloucestershire, wiltshire and north somerset, ., ., , to hospital. they use data to the gp has as part — to hospital. they use data to the gp has as part of _ to hospital. they use data to the gp has as part of the _ to hospital. they use data to the gp has as part of the medical— to hospital. they use data to the gp has as part of the medical record? i has as part of the medical record? it is existing gp records, data is held safely in the normal networks on the nhs so it is safe and secure. what is the next stage? it sends an alert to the gp? lute what is the next stage? it sends an alert to the gp?— alert to the gp? we use it to work out as a team _ alert to the gp? we use it to work out as a team where _ alert to the gp? we use it to work out as a team where can - alert to the gp? we use it to work out as a team where can we - alert to the gp? we use it to work| out as a team where can we spend alert to the gp? we use it to work - out as a team where can we spend our time and— out as a team where can we spend our time and it

police forces know is all these police forces in special measures, including our has any our own in wiltshired yet? >> well, if they sacked, they are in charge. i think the problem is who . who goes in problem is who. who goes in their place and who will take their place and who will take the job. danny, look, there is no for keeping no reason for keeping people because there isn't automatically to automatically someone to take their automatically someone to take the i'm going i'm going >> i'm going to defer. i'm going to to those three coppers. to defer to those three coppers. they policing they know more about policing than ever know about. than i will ever know about. basically, was most basically, it was most disheartening, to hear disheartening, though, to hear norman brennan, whose career norman brennan, who whose career i've and i've admired i've followed and i've admired over years, and been in i've followed and i've admired ove policingirs, and been in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arenad been in i've followed and i've admired ove policing arena for been in i've followe