what do you make of some of these broad pronouncements, like the winklevoss twins saying you will be a millionaire if you own one. nobody knows for sure that is tribute mike: -- is true. mike: i am skeptical of those statements because it can make people take more risk than they should. the thing i have to respect from the winklevoss twins is they have been steadfastly right for almost a decade now and you have to go with it once in a while and the trend is going their way in the macro. that kicked in during covert, everything going digital. it's also a unique thing in the space. bitcoin started it, but digitalization of the dollar is rapidly increasing. you see that with the stable coins. that is part of the system. the theory him -- ethereum. but we have to be careful, 10,000 cryptos are an excessive amount but bitcoin is the number one, like a digital version of gold. emily: let's talk about e-minis building crypto features into their products, one of which is a square, which is been investing into cryptocurrency. take a listen. >> we don't want to compete with hardware wallets, w