there's also winnie the opera, you have to hear.being the major heroin in an opera. >> let's hear this. >> your life story has recently been made into an opera. i know you were there on opening night. what did you think about it? >> i made those remarks about the opera, and i honestly found it difficult to imagine how you would translate a struggle into an opera. i think they did an amazing job. of course, not everyone would be happy about how that life was depicted, but i don't think it is possible to show 18 months of solitary confinement in an opera situation and i don't think it is possible to translate to and depict to those nine and a half years of punishment and it is not possible to translate the actual torture each and every mother went through and it was one of those where -- who got to the bitter end of the ar par tied. >> many sides to winnie mandela. her granddaughters are going to write a book about her story. >> we're going to have more on this throughout this morning and also tomorrow morning. but the point i'm going

winnie mandela rarely gives interviews but she invited cnn into her home.ointed in the movie project. >> i was not consulted. i am still alive. and i think that it is a total disrespect to come to south africa, make a movie about my struggle and call that movie some translation of a romantic life of winnie mandela. i think it is an insult. i don't know what would be romantic in our struggle. >> and there ms. mandela is speaking with our reporter. she attended the world premiere in south africa of the opera and was impressed with how that turned out. >> i made those remarks about the opera having been a lily white thing before. and i honestly found it difficult to imagine how you would translate a struggle into an opera. i think they did an amazing job. of course, not everyone would be happy about how that life was depicted. i don't think it is possible to show 18 months of confinement in an opera situation. and i don't think it's possible to translate to a platform and dictate those 9 1/2 years of punishment. it is not possible to translate the actual tortu

winnie mandela. the fascinating winnie mandela.eople in south africa call her mother of the nation because she still has this enormous grassroots support. she still lives in the township. people will knock at the door and she'll invite them in and she's very hospitable and truly loved and revered along with being criticized and hated. she becomes this mythical complex and historical character who was definitely an inrgal part. she was under house arrest for 9 1/2 years, huresarassed rele s relentlessly. what was it like raising these two girls when their father is in prison. what do you tell them about your father being in jail. here's what she said. >> a little child that, in fact, it is, i'm proud of your father being in prison because he is fighting for the nation. can you imagine what goesen i o a little child's mind. chose to be with his family and didn't go to prison. why's that? so our children had a very, very difficult time. we, as parents, had a difficult time to explain to them the valus of society. >> and the children a

being the granddaughter of winnie mandela, there's all the winnie mandela interviews on your log.s really interesting hearing what it was like for winnie. getting on to nelson mandela, he's going to be 93. how he managed to stay healthy for solange. it was interesting to hear what she had to say. >> he's very particular about what he eats and i think -- but i think it just goes into the whole thing of just being healthy, mind, body and spirit and taking very good care of yourself. i think he's lived so long because he takes very good care of himself and the same thing goes to my grandmother. she's very particular about what she puts into her body and how she takes care of herself. i think those are some of the things that they've passed on to us. as to be mindful about what you put into your body and how you take care of yourself. >> you may be surprised what nelson mandela says to his granddaughter about her weight. >> oh. what does he say? because grandparents can say what they want to say. >> with my mother, with my grandmother, with every single one of us, he's very particular

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as you mentioned at winnie mandela's home i spoke to her and nelson's granddaughter, the daughter ofot of time with us. he loves the company of people. but i think we try to also just give him his time to rest because he does need his time to rest but he's well. he's fine. he's at home in the eastern cape right now, which is his favorite place to be and so he's happy and healthy. he's very healthy. >> he still looks good. >> one of the questions that people are curious about, what is the relationship now between nelson mandela and winnie mandela? it hasacrimonious. they eventually divorced in 1996. i asked what is the relationship between your grandparents know and hear is what she said. >> it was a long road and for her to be in a position to sit in the same room and for all of us to share christmases together, birthdays together, significant times in the family together, it's such a joy for me to see both of them in a room sitting together and they can conver conversate and chat. >> that's what any family member, child or grandchild would want to see, family getting along even thou

kim mulvihill joins us with what some are calling a sweet recommend i do pollen and think winnie the pooh, huh, kim? >> absolutely right. >>> reporter: more and more allergy sufferers are taking a road to relief that's paved by mother nature. it's honey. not just any honey but the kind made in your own backyard. >>> reporter: the buzz is this allergy season could be one of the worst all thanks to our unusual weather. >> this year it's been the worst. >> really itchy eyes, throat, sneezing. >> reporter: to fight mother nature and all her pollen some -- >> i take over-the-counter pills. >> reporter: -- others are embracing mother nature instead by eating unfiltered local honey. >> i take a tablespoon of local hon day. it's important to start at the beginning of allergy season so i start in march and i take it all the way through the frost. >> reporter: sheila o'donnell tried allergy medication but the side effects were so bad she tried honey. >> do you actually believe that the honey is what's helping your allergy symptoms go away? >> oh, yeah. absolutely. >> we have a number of custom

authorities say she was being taught how to drive by her 25- ran into thet winnie ran water there couldcharges for knowingly allowing someone under the age of 15 to operate a motor vehicle. >> two people died from exposure. cooling centers are available and therefore more than just cooling-off perio. >> we are declaring a code red. we want individuals to know that we have 11 cooling centers throughout the city. they are places they can go and cool off and get water, but also for energy assistance. >> for locations, go to wbaltv.com. for now, let's get a check of the weather. what does it look like, tom? >> it is going to get hot again. some big storms pass just to the west of us today. they're rolling through the mounds and headed south and west of us. we did see some cloud cover break off and drift across our region. it did not hold the temperatures back much here, but in the mountains it is much cooler. to the west, scorching hot. 96 in chicago. 102 degrees in minneapolis. we will see how long the heat is going to stick around this time with the seven-day forecast coming up. >> a piec

. >> so, you have the winnie the pooh blanket, a teddy bear. >> a bag, et cetera.l items that cindy anthony says were missing from the house and which prosecutors say there were remnants of at the crime scene. so, prosecutors would tell you we have pretty definitively linked the scene where the body was found back to the home. the issue, of course, is of the defense saying okay. fair enough. but george anthony was the one who they say disposed of the body. and so, wouldn't be that surprising that items from the home were later found at the scene. >> and, nancy, ashleigh mentioned it in her tag. the significance of the translation of this tattoo, bella vita. >> yes, absolutely. and what's also significant about that tattoo that tot mom got in the weeks to days after caylee goes missing is that we found out yesterday on the stand that after she got the tattoo, the people in the tattoo parlor were familiar with caylee. she had brought her in there several times. tot mom, after she gets the tattoo says, hey, let's have a pizza party. and she springs for everybody in th

winnie agel and her guest. mr. greg kennedy and his wife, mrs. karen guverman. mr.d and her husband. the honorable norman mineta and his wife, mrs. veni mineta. and mr. jeremy alters and guest, mrs. liana geriol. mr. richard faunte and his wife, mrs. jenine faunte. mr. robert but -- bucini and his wife, mrs. elizabeth bucini. mr. haywood yan and his wife, mrs. yan. >> it's great. no better place. i was here years before at an architecture group. >> nuremberg? >> yes. >> the honorable john roberts, chief justice of the united states, and his wife, mrs. jane roberts. ms. darlene miller and her guest, ms. terry lee strauss. the honorable senator jeanne shaheen and her husband, mr. william shaheen. the honorable austin goolsby and his wife, mrs. robin goolsby. ms. lisa budmoon and her husband, mr. mark kastoler. mr. doug hickey and his wife, ms. dawn ross. ms. susan eisenhower and her guest, mr. bucky clarkson. the honorable senator daniel coates and his wife, mrs. marcia coates. the honorable representative schultz and her husband, mr. steven schultz. mr. david billing

and heart-breaking evidence at the crime scene itself of the winnie the pooh paraphernalia now soiledr little clothes in tatters, and the condition of her body. there's no other way to put it, anderson. her bones were naued on and strewn by wild animals. the way that they were placed there initially suggests that someone within that home did the deed. >> the defense, though -- and they said this in court today, i want to read this -- they said "there has been in this case no evidence of premeditation. there's a stacking of inferences, a stacking of speculation but no evidence". that essentially there's circumstantial evidence but they don't have a motive, they don't have an actual cause of death. and they don't have definitive proof. >> reporter: you know what, anderson? if i had a dime -- no. a nickel. for every time i heard that argument at the end of the state's case, i would be a multi, multimillionaire right now. this is a circumstantial case. that's nothing to be ashamed of. most cases are circumstantial. direct evidence is really based on eye-witness testimony, typically. and w

meanwhile, casey's mother took the stand for a second time and testified she had not seen kaylee winniewhen cindy anthony walked off the stand it appeared she mouthed the words "i love you "to her daughter who looked away. >> reporter: so the big question is, will casey anthony testify? well, i talked to one of the defense attorneys today. i asked him this question. i said, have you made the decision about whether she'll testify, figuring that's a question he might answer. he said to me, if we made the decision i'm not telling you. which means one of two things. one they don't want to show their poker hand. or, two they haven't decided themselves. but either way, anderson, if she does testify and it could happen as early as this thursday, it will be a television spectacle. >> for more on today's emotional testimony and what we can expect joining us now is paul henderson a former prosecutor in san francisco and andrea lions, a law professor at depaul university and casey anthony's lead attorney earlier. as i said you're a form member of casey's defense team. >> yes. >> you think she's in

evidence is because as this trial goes on, prosecutors will show one of these bags had a picture of winnie with disney and will try to link these bags to casey anthony's house and the other evidence that we said before, the tape, the duct tape on the mouth of the skull that was still here, why would duct tape be on the mouth of this poor little girl's skull if she drowned in a swimming pool? >> the picture we're looking at right there, gary, is that duct tape on a skull? what is that? >> reporter: what we saw in the court was a huge amount of duct tape where her mouth and nose would have been. it's been months since her body was put there, and the duct tape was still there. and it kept the lower jaw attached to the jaw. the medical examiner said he never seen that before, that after that much deterioration, that jaw would fall off and it didn't because of the tape put there. >> some of the things that casey anthony's brother said today, she told him a story about zanny the nanny that was very different than the story she told the police about this alleged nanny. what do you make of -- just

reporter: casey's mother took the stand for a second time and testified she had not seen caylee's winnieeks before the disappearance. the blanket found with caylee's body. casey anthony looked at her mother vacantly during the testimony. and when cenedy anthony walked off the stand it appeared she mouthed the words i love you to her daughter who looked away. gary tuchman, cnn, orlando, florida. >> in the next hour, more details on the casey anthony murder trial with cnn legal contributor and former federal prosecutor sunny hostin, joining us to what we can talk about once the defense begins its case. >>> federal reserve chairman ben bernanke is chiming in on this business about the debt ceiling. he's warning lawmakers not to play chicken when it comes to dealing with the nation's addiction to borrowing or spending money. bernanke said republicans refusal to raise the debt ceiling unless there are deep spending cuts is the wrong approach. >> i fully understand the desire to use the debt limit to force some necessary and difficult fiscal policy adjustments, but the debt limit is the wrong

you're playing winnie mandela. >> yes. >> you have a couple other movies. >> yes.un. i'm excited about that. it's something different. and i also play a single drug addict mom. so, look for that. something different. and i like to take it one step at a time. baby steps. >> and the producer's alicia keys in that one. >> and she produce md my album, too. she's amazing. >> i have to tell you. when you had little david jr. out here earlier, wasn't he adorable? >> thank you. that's him all day. >> he was just rocking. >> that was him half-asleep. he'll be asleep. and he'll be like -- my baby in his sleep. that's what we do every morning. every day, all day. >> is it really? well, he does seem like he's going to grow up around it and be very comfortable. we have one more question. what viewer question should i pick? have you been thinking ahead to the next record? >> yeah. i want to start writing more. so, i'm getting into that. as long as i get a nice, little break, i'll start writing more. i want to get my feet wet in producing, as well. >> no gospel? >> oh. of course.

of the day being shown heart-wrenching pictures of 2-year-old caylee anthony's skull and mud-caked winniey what is it exactly that the jury saw? >> they saw very graphic photographs of the crime scene, brooke, with little caylee anthony's skull in those pictures. they also saw pictures that the medical examiner referred to that were much more cleaned up, but in my view, perhaps more graphic, pictures of little caylee anthony's skull, pictures of her mandible, pictures of hair sort of matted to the skull, teeth were a part of that picture, you could also see teeth as well as the eye socket. and so extremely graphic photographs e neared evidence, seep by the jury, on little monitors, i guess one monitor shared by two jurors throughout the jury box and so i would say this is probably perhaps the most sobering moment for this jury because now, little caylee anthony is a victim. now they know that the little -- the pictures of little caylee anthony they have been seeing before, of a -- very much alive beautiful little girl is no more. >> so as the jury is sitting there looking at these tiny mo

. >> so, you were aware they were looking for winnie the pooh blankets and bedding. >> there were some 77 items they had taken on december 11th, so i wasn't sure what they were looking for. i think from my recollection, something to do with the sticker. >> prior to september of 2008, did you tell your son, lee anthony, that you had sent dominic casey and or jim hoover to suburban drive to look for caylee with a video camera? >> i had never told anybody that i sent those guys there because i never sent those guys there. >> what about after, i know just answer, but i want to make sure about the time period. what about after our around the time of november 2008, did you tell lee or have an argument with lee about sending dominic to go and search in that area? >> i had no knowledge of that search. in that area, so i would not have had an argument regarding that. my first knowledge of that search was after caylee's remains were found. >> and you never had a discussion with him where he confronted you that why are you looking for a dead kid? >> sustained. >> i have no further questions. >> c

that remnants of items missing from the anthony home were discovered at the crime scene, including a winnier george who disposed of the little girl's body. the defense is saying, fair enough. but george anthony was the one who they say disposed of the body. so, it wouldn't be that surprising that items from the home were later found at the scene. >> reporter: and then there's the question of casey's tattoo which she had done after little caylee went missing. >> the translation for the back tattoo, the good life, could be construed by the state to mean now she is going to have the good single life. the defense would probably fry to use it to their advantage saying it was more of a tribute to the daughter that she already knew was dead. >> reporter: the question everyone wants answered, of course, will casey anthony, with her life potentially on the line, take the stand in her own defense? peggy, daniel. >> all right. >>> police in indiana have released security camera images hoping to find clues in the disappearance of a college student, lauren spierer, one picture shows a smiling spierer in

reform also means the winnie to engage in regular discussions -- means that we need to engage in regular discussions. we have seen an increasing sophistication from cyberspace, including using major news events or natural snow disasters to target and suspending -- to target unsuspecting users. we all have to be willing to keep moving, learning, and do a bit more. we can learn more about the signs are indicators of potential criminal terrorist acts and say something to the proper authorities. it was a street vendor, after all, who, last year, drew the police to the times were bombing attempt. in january, it was an alert city worker in spokane, washington, who alerted to a backpack that could have led to a bombing of an mlk parade route. we need to make sure that our children are practicing safe cyber habits and that we are cognizant of what they're doing online. this is especially relevant in the wake of several major bridges and fishing attacks that recently treated the american public. and we can all take the basic steps necessary to know how to do with an emergency when it happens. the