we turn to winnie byanyima is the executive director of oxfam. served 11 years in the ugandan parliament and cofounded the 60 member global gender and climate alliance. dipti bhatnagar is with friends of the earth international, where she is climate justice and energy coordinator. she travels to lima from where she lives in mozambique. welcome both of you to democracy now! talk about the significance of cop20. we are in the amazon, the first hosts thenian country cop, yet what is coming out of cop20? >> we are worried because the clock is ticking and we're coming toward the end of this meeting, but we don't see the breakthrough yet. it is important this meeting sets the stage for paris next year. we need a strong deal which should include a commitment by the developed countries to put money down to support the poor countries to adapt, to be able to cope with the climate impacts there are ready facing. the question of financing is critical. the second piece of success for us is that there should be an agreement to have a review of the pledges that

let's turn to winnie byanyima. 's personaly kerry commitment is very welcome. point he is making -- it is important to recognize that for is abilityry, there to reduce carbon emissions. there is the issue of responsibility, how much it has contributed to this crisis. and a question of development. these must be put in balance. so a poor country that has little responsibility for creating climate change or global warming, for a poor adapty that has a need to to protect its people from the for as that are real, poor country that needs to overcome poverty, the concentration -- retribution has to be measured. for a richer country that has more responsibility, contributed more to change, that has the resources and technology to address the problem and has already influenced, they must put down more resources. >> as we wrap up our climate summit coverage. >> cop 20 is doing nothing to ask. the clinic catastrophe, but people are acting. there will be an action here at 11:00 a.m. talking be a die-in about justice, energy, food, the real issues people care about. earlie