joining me is winnie lau, from the ocean plastics project at the pew charitable trust.ed to plastic, aren't we? why can't we seem to get enough of it? you ask a very timely question. we just released a report today trying to understand this really complex problem, and trying to understand what the solutions are that are needed to solve this really plastic pollution crisis. so what we found was that, if we don't do anything and we continue as we are, the amount of plastic in the ocean will be unmanageable. but we have the knowledge and the approaches and the technologies today to dramatically cut the amount of pollution that could end up polluting our oceans and oui’ end up polluting our oceans and our land by nearly 80%. and so oui’ our land by nearly 80%. and so our story is one of hope, that we have the tools today to start acting. well, i wanted to talk to you a bit more about solutions, and what we as individuals can do to stop this problem. so we looked at four categories of solutions, and they apply to people just as much as to society at large and to companies an