the simple fact is winston churchill had not been in india since 1898. i have looked through the correspondence that churchill had with the viceroy of india at the time. and i have looked through the correspondence which church him ambassador had with the viceroy. some of the things that he writes to the ambassador in feelngton really makes you ashamed to have in british -- been british. tdrchill simply blame gandhi. it was better not to give the indian self-government in 1942. wascome singapore surrendered to the japanese after only a few days? british empire troops surrendered, which included something approaching 60,000 indians who were mercenaries. ,000 of those fight withered to the japanese to get control of their own country. one of the things that i so admire, and it is a central moment in this book, is what happens in the february of 1942, winword comes in from macarthur to the white house. it is a signal from mcarthur saying that the president of the philippines, which are still an would likerritory, to surrender or negotiate with the japanese.

, means that the islamic state is able to consolidate it's control over terrorism. >> quoted winston churchill, he also famously said with respect to the russian revolution of 1917 and the west's failure to deal with the communist takeover there, churchill stayed we should have strangled it in it's cradle and that's what we should do to isis before they can console date their control. >> this is an astonishing quote this morning from daniel pfeiffer, senior white aid and "washington post" ambassador, he says there's no timetable for solving the problem that's going to meet the cable news cycle speed, ambassador, isn't the timetable preventing a terrorism attack like the london bus bombings of 2005? >> it's not about governance, it's not about national security, it's about how to cover the president's posterior and this is the kind of message that says, not only to the islamic state, but to their state sponsors to adversaries of the united states around the world. we have got the children's hour going on at the white house. >> and finally, john kerry, secretary of state being dispatched to the

he heard of workers, the mid-20s century, people like winston churchill, an eccentric characters, peoplerom different walks of life, the professions. and then added to the diversity and variety. he did not hear the same. a huge cultural being a special advisor. the american carries working on the hill. that as bread its own momentum. >> the three party leaders on lost a sense of the special politicians. >> if you look at them this is a fact and were born within three years of each other. they were exactly the same age. the winter either oxford or cambridge. their first job out of university was in politics. and that's a fact. and the head comes along, he went to a private school, but he did not give the university. so he can say, : none like these guys. i've actually worked as a commodities trader that may be false. he's been a politician as long as i can remember. they're not looking for a forensic truth's, they just want to story. his is quite convincing. >> home all lines have this obsession in no way with britain or maybe it's crass and schooling. you yourself webster eaton, a public

. >> winston churchill, who is one of the great historical figures of modern day or the 20th century and probably no favorite of the president's, has said that one of the worst things you can do in warfare, and i guess the white house would dispute whether or not we're actually engane engaged in a war, he said one of the worst things you can do in war is be indecisive. >> and it still is the same thing. we are indecisive, so where is it popping up? it pops up in libya, as we've just seen, it pops up in the ukraine, it's popping up in the middle east. when you have king abdullah of saudi arabia saying in one month it will be in europe, in one month it will be in the united states, he's giving us a warning. as we lead up to 9/11, we must increase our alert status globally. we don't know what's going to come at us, whether it's big or little or whatever, but we must have the mindset of what we think is a very perilous time. >> what is the potential down sides of monitoring the moderate rebels in syria when we see reports of what just happened last week, that the free syrian army was app

>> guest: the two things about writing a book the smartest thing ever said about writing as winston churchill it's like building a house. you have to work out how many houses and the structure of the house, how many rooms and bedrooms. before you worry about -- you have to work up the structure before how the sofa is going to appear. you have to look at the actual structure so once you have a structure com, then the second g about writing the book is if you want to eat an elephant you have to chop it up into little pieces. [laughter] so once you have the house you have to take the approach and the like that it took about six years. i was thinking about it even before. >> host: i've done quite a bit here and when i spent my year away in boston so these have been evolving for quite a while. from the african continent and my home country was called the gold coast so there was always that sort of interest and looking at politics in terms of finance. and all of that came together and took a very gradual approach. it must have taken three months. >> host: >> guest: monday mornings are quite good an

but two things about writing a book, the smartest thing that anyone sitting writing a book was winston churchill it's like building a house. after work out how many floors, with the external structures to work out how many rooms and bedrooms and while you worry about -- carson churchill actually build houses. >> absolutely. yet to work out the structure before work "their different will half or herself will appear or with the available like dree have to look at the actual structure. once you have a structure of a second thing, if you want to eat an elephant in after chopin and of little pieces. so you just got to take it in a gradual approach it took about six years. i was thinking about it even before. >> it appears he was an economics. i've done quite a bit here. i spent my year away in boston. some of these things have been evolving for quite a while. i've always been interested in gold, especially from the african continent, my home country is called the gold coast. there was always of interest politics in terms of finance and of that can be given very gradually. it's a congressional approac

winston churchill. his mother was an american. he loved this country.nd even though he was a british citizen and a british leader, he the cause of liberty and the world on this and fellles -- rose with the prosperity of america. , the americansaid people always do the right thing after they have exhausted every other possibility. [laughter]

the code making and code up by g headquarters set winston churchill. allen churing comes up with an approach that he referred to as i should say assumed text. were able to find radio stations in the third reich and occupied europe that sent out day at the same time, enigma messages at the same time. the nature of the mission of the radio stations, guess the ble to first station 26 on the coast of france comes on the air every 7:00 a.m. and the first sentence off of tower is the weather today off of the coast of france will be -- why, it was concerned with reports to weather the german ships and boats at sea. you get a head start. you can begin the process. design a s able to marvelous device. it's a giant calculating a guessing machine. it helps to sort out the other patterns and accept kwenss. -- sequences. i don't want this to sound easy. it was not. it took eight to 12 hours. analysts and t linguists and many, many more personnel. bottom line. by the end of the day, with some able to s, they were turn to the rotor settings ntercepts ing messages all

you know, as winston churchill said, this may not be the end, it may not even be the beginning of the end, but it could be the end of the beginning. it could start a new chapter in which we, together with the united states and with the leadership of egypt and the region and other countries, like saudi arabia and the gulf states, who feel that we must put an end to this extremism and terrorism of hamas, will seek a totally new reality in the region, and this should involve, i think, the total demilitari demilitarization of gaza and eventually the reconstruction of gaza. >> what do you make of sources that benjamin netanyahu said don't force -- after the collapse of the cease-fire in two hours, nepten hue is to have told official never to second-guess him again. >> i don't know 0. i was not prify to that conversation which apparently took place between prime minister netanyahu and the united states ambassador to israel dan sha peerpirshapiro. i think netanyahu is right in telling the world not to second-guess him or israel. they are defending their citi n citizens against a blood thirst

it was set up personally by winston churchill. there were any number of brilliant people there. not the least of which was alan turing. he comes up with a very innovative approach that he referred to as assumed text. they were able to find radio stations and the third reich and occupied europe that send out messages every day at the same time, and in the messages. and because of the nature of the mission of the radio station, they were able to get the first sentence of the transmission. station 26 one -- the coast of france comes on the air every day at 7:00 a.m. in the first sentence off the tower is the weather today off the coast of france will be. why? it was concerned with putting out weather reports to the german ships and submarines. with that you get a head start. you can begin, the process. and touring is able to design a marvelous device referred to as the bombe. this is a guessing machine that helps sort out the other patterns and sequences. i do not want to make this sound easy. it was not. between eight to 12 hours and the core of cryptanalysts, linguists and many m

especially winston churchill. i was amazed at how much world war ii meant to richard nixon.onstantly saying, why can't we win in vietnam? look what we did in the battle of the bulge. he was always mad at the air force. they were lazy and did not want to bomb enough. a lot of tension between nixon and the pentagon. >> with respect to his military advisers, did he respect them? >> i think there was some disrespect. he doesn't feel they want to win the war enough. he feels the pentagon has fatigue of vietnam. he wanted to increase bombing. he could not stand it when they said a mission had been canceled because of bad weather. nixon would say, what bad weather? we are america, we go in there. even if he thought he were going to lose, he thought it would show china he was so mad -- he told kissinger, let them think i am a madman. that says, don't mess with taiwan. don't mess with hong kong or japan. the allies in the pacific. >> he is not an introspective man. or is he? >> not very introspective. he is very well read and intelligent. maybe even brilliant. he always says the wron

cliffs at point to hock and parachuted and glided in behind the lines, we remember the words of winston churchill who made these comments early in the war but are very appropriate for this commemoration. and i quote. never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few. god bless our veter rans. god bless those serving today. god bless their families and our allies. god bless america. thank you for your service. [ applause ] >> thank you, jeb. general. not only for those remarks, but for your service that you continue to give. we now have the privilege of hearing from the united states army band brass quintet. >> thank you, jebtle men. and thank you for being with us here today. we appreciate it. it has now been 70 years, three score years and ten, a biblical lifeti lifetime since the summer of 1944. for many living in the 21st serve ri, the events of the second world war have grown hazy. blurred to black and white images of tankss, artillery, glimpsed, perhaps, on late night tv. for others, world war ii is now a chapter in the history books. as such, some may conclude it wa

winston churchill. his mother was an american. he loved this country. and even though he was a british citizen and a british leader, he the cause of liberty and the world on this and fellles -- rose with the prosperity of america. , the americansaid people always do the right thing after they have exhausted every other possibility. [laughter] he knew us pretty well. lastou know are over the 20 are 30 years, we have exhausted a lot of possibilities. we tried the sexual revolution and chemicals, whether drug or alcohol. we tried material it was at this is filling ourselves up -- inquisitiveness and filling ourselves up. who could dopeople stuff that only we could do ourselves. we have exhausted every other possibility. now it is time to restore this last hope for mankind to what it was created and intended to be which is one nation under god once again. thank you all very much. bless you. and bless the western conservative summit. event, a panele of media figures debated the influence of the tea party on the republican party. it includes rush limbaugh pro

so think about winston churchill reside nanny. a good christian lady. loved the little boy. e parents parents of winston l did not love their son and didn't care about him. but this nanny took care of him and he became a guy that basically brought freedom 0 all of europe. so you can do things that are not political and have huge political ramifications. that's how i want to encourage people. >> host: georgia is next, jerry, on the line for democrats. >> caller: good morning. >> guest: how are you doing? >> caller: fine, thank you. i just wanted to ask you why are you still referring to women as gals? >> guest: i don't remember saying gals. it's a slang term for women, i suppose. i don't remember using it particularly. why do you ask? >> caller: because it's -- you're supposed to be well traveled and an intelligence man and still referring to women as gals. >> guest: well, don't know that's a reflection of somebody's training or intelligence, but what is your point? >> host: i think we lost the caller. greg washington, dc. on our line for independents. greg, good morning. >> g

seven years ago, winston churchill bemoaned what he saw as the inability of mankind to act until the emergency comes. stand with israel before it is too late. before the danger lands on your doorstep and since preservation gone. thank you. let me thank the briefers who were with us who are about to leave. next speaker is lebanon. [speaking lebanese] briefings by the inspector general and the higher officials of united nations, regarding the impact of the israeli aggression on the gaza strip, the threats and challenges at the humanitarian level. i would like to thank the asretary general, as well [indiscernible] their exhaustive briefings. figures theyful have shared with us. i would like to extend our most heartfelt condolences to the theed nations, regarding victims of the israeli aggression against gaza. is taking place during a truce. a 72 hour truce. we welcome the egyptian leadership. as thank them for their efforts. we welcome the palestinian delegations participation in negotiations in cairo to achieve a permanent cease-fire which would lead to a lifting of the blockade on gaz

president, winston churchill, one of the great architects of this institution, is remembered for his remarkable ability to perceive danger long before the rest of the world had woken up to the threat. in 1935, 4 years before world war ii, churchill criticized international community for standing by as germany rapidly rearmed itself. in his words, the family of nations suffers from a when actions to act would be simple and effective, and active clear thinking and refusal of counsel until emergency comes in self-preservation strikes it's ngs.ing go the international community is once again facing a severe lack of foresight and unwillingness to see. contracted ofre stories of islamic terrorism, killing christians, boko haram is kidnapping children, yet this assembly does not utter a word, but only muster outrage when israel asked to defend its citizens. the double standards are absolutely appalling. 1600 people were killed in july. in libya, clashes between rival militias killed 200 people last month. in nigeria, bo carron has slaughtered nearly 3000 people this year. -- :00 around has

in america can go and you can go and hold a document that franklin roosevelt signed or that winston churchill signed. here's something with fdr, grand, and when you look at that, it's hard to even describe how exciting that can feel to actually see the actual material. here's a cartoon that came about when he was identifying to get this library put forward, and they're saying, here's fdr at the hyde park memorial. there's a lot of opposition. one lady sent to a check for one dollar and said, i'm sorry -- 20-cents and said, i couldn't send more because of the economy. and so there was a lot of criticism about doing this. you learn sometimes by bumping into something about someone. everything i'd always read about roosevelt was after pearl harbor, he was depressed-couldn't believe the navy was gone, and here he is thinking about his presidential library the next day. roosevelt kept his hand in everything. and one of the things you do, you look at these presidents and learn lessons how to live, see that roosevelt would never have had to say, this guy ran my bank account. i didn't know he investe

that was winston church hil and -- that gentleman was winston churchill, and he delivered a rousing address that went to solidifying the relationship with britain during the war. being an effective senator can also be exhibited through oversight function. following the attack on pearl harbor, there were wild rumors that fdr and the senior civilian leadership had been aware of the attack beforehand and had done nothing to prevent japan from attacking hawaii, in hopes of drawing america into the war. investigativee -- committee. barkley sponsored a resolution to investigate the pearl harbor disaster and served as chairman of the investigative committee. the majority report signed by barkley and several republican members of the panel determined that the senior leadership did not have insight but that the ultimate responsibility for non-provoked act of aggression rested with the japanese. his actions helped set the record straight about an attack that understandably had triggered very strong emotions from the public. for a senate party leader to be effective, he must have a good relationship w

. >> well, and, you know, when you listen to it and, you know, people like winston churchill and franklin delano roosevelt. i mean, churchill was so humble. the humility comes through when he talks about it. and roosevelt as well. i mean, they understood the enormity of what they were facing. the risk to our survival. these people want to wipe us off the face of the earth. i mean, and, you know, as an american, should i feel that my government is doing everything it can to protect me? >> it's not, clearly it's not. and the press conference that you broadcast the excerpt from of hagel and dempsey, although the pentagon rolled it back a little bit the next day, i'm sure under white house pressure. what that showed is that they understand full well over there, because of the intelligence and other information they have, what a threat isis amounts to. and why it's so important, if we're going to do anything about it to act quickly. in contrast to the president who doesn't see it as a threat. chamber len once described czechoslovakia as a faraway country with people about whom we know little.

you can go and hold a document that franklin roosevelt signed or winston churchill signed. here it is something with fdr, when you look at that it is hard to describe how exciting it can feel to see the actual material. they were fighting to get this library put forward and saying here is fdr as santa claus giving him hide park memorial. there was a lot of -- and more because of the economy. there was a lot of criticism about doing this. you learn some times by bumping into someone. everything i always read about roosevelt was at pearl harbor, he was depressed, couldn't believe the navy was gone and here he was thinking about his presidential library the next day. roosevelt had his hand in everything and one thing you do is you look at these presidents and learn lessons about how to live a you see that roosevelt would never have had to say this guy ran my bank account, i didn't know this, if you the get the documentation he keeps his hand in every pot and there is his car that you can see, the mansion. this affected me, looking at his elevator. you all can look at this toda

president, winston churchill one of the great architects of this institution is remembered for his remarkableve danger long before the rest of the world had woken up to the threat. in 1935, four years before world war ii churchville criticized the international community for standing by as germany rapidly rearmed itself. in his words, the family of nations suffered from a foresight and an unwillingness to act when action would be simply effective and the lack of clear thinking and confusion of counsel until the emergency comes and until self-preservation strikes its jarring call. the international community is once again facing a severe lack of foresight, an unwillingness to see. everyday we are confronted by stories of radical islamic terrorism. isis is purging iraq of christians. boko haram has kidnapped schoolgirls in nigeria and gunmen are raiding fishing villages on the somalian coast and yet this is simply doesn't utter a word. it can only muster its outrage when israel acts to defend its citizens. the double standards are absolutely appalling. in iraq, over 1600 people were killed in j

winston churchill speaking of the communist revolution in russia said we should have destroyed at in its cradle. i think that's what we ought to do to isis. that's not where the president is, i don't think. i think he thinks you can contain isis that means he never will have a strategy. >> you are right about that because he seems to said well, we have done something in iraq but yet he seems hesitant, reluctant, even confused about what he should do with respect to syria. and they tried to kind of minimize the damage of him saying that he had no strategy by saying well that was just with respect to syria. what do you think we should do in syria? i think his comment marks a new low you can't separate syria from iraq. if you are going to deal with isis effectively you have to deal with it in both syria and iraq. complicated beyond that because in addition to isis as an adversary, we still have to worry about iran. we have to worry about satellite states. baghdad. we have to worry about iran's support for terrorism in the region. we have to worry about iran's nuclear weapons program. th

jimmy carter and ronald reagan made the same kind of deal that winston churchill and franklin delano made with joseph stalin. we needed a bad guy on our side. there were consequences to that. inevitably, there was going to be. i think jimmy carter and ronald reagan knew that. if you step back and look at the whole thing -- the secret war in the 1980's was a global game changer. billion of roughly $3 and not a single american casualty, the soviet union was defeated within six months, the berlin wall fell. the warsaw pact imploded and the soviet union went out of business. kicking thewith soviet union out of afghanistan? >> that was the catalyst. we will never know if the soviet union had not been defeated in afghanistan what would've happened. >> and we will never know if somebody different than gorbachev would've been the head of the party and would've resisted. >> we know what did happen. they lost in the cold war came to an end and with the end of that, the danger of nuclear war between the united states and russia. >> was there lessons to be learned after they kicked al qaeda out?

think about winston churchill. the name he was a good christian lady and the parents of winston churchill didn't love their son and didn't care much about him but the man he took care of him and he became this guy that basically brought freedom to all of europe so you can do things that are political and have huge political ramifications. that's how i want to encourage people. >> on the line for democrats. good morning. >> caller: why are you still referring to the women as gals? you're supposed to be an intelligent man and you're still referring to women as gals. >> guest: i don't believe that it's a reflection of somebody's intelligence or training but what is your point? >> guest: i think we lost him. on the line for independence, good morning. have that you might have scientific ignorance but the real issue is rape isn't a scientific question. it's something that can't be defined scientific. it's a social issue and deserves a social definition. so the objection is that you're calling somebody who was raped -- y

i had to get permission from his son, winston churchill junior. i had to show him the letters i wanted to quote. he said no. he was the only one. i ended up having to paraphrase those letters and use just the 11 most crucial words without having to get permission. >> if i got it right, on page 99 she says, julian simpson remained the only man i ever loved. who was julian simpson? >> julian simpson appears in volume one. she met him on one of her trips to europe where her mother was trying to marry her off to european royalty. clare met this dashing, handsome captain who fought in world war i. they fell for each other. he even hired a rolls-royce to drive them to southampton. they were quoting poetry to each other on the way down. he came to america to visit her. her mother said, this man is just in the army. he doesn't have any money. you have to marry somebody rich. so he went home disappointed. but they corresponded for a while. they never saw each other until he came to america. she tried to see him during the war but he went back to europe dur

in fact winston churchill used the phrase the exceptional relationship to describe the close relationshe united kingdom and the united states. now i want to look at that relationship through the prism of the struggle of the middle class. it is not just in the u.s. where the middle class has become a hot political topic. >> this will put a tax on your pension. >> the squeezed middle here is very similar to the middle class as politicians in the u.s. refer to the middle class. >> reporter: jonathan is the director of the london-based national institute of economic and social research. >> people in both the working and the middle classes have had quite a hard time of it in the uk. people who have got jobs but don't necessarily have a huge amount of job security, aren't earning a lot, feel quite hard pressed by taxes, insecure employment and by not seeing their wages going up by much. >> reporter: about 50% of britains are living paycheck to paycheck, compared to estimated 75% of americans. their medium is $75,000. in the u.s. it's $51,000. that may seem to put the brits at an advantage bu

in fact, nixon often on the tapes will talk about, you know, greeks and romans, and in stick, winston churchill. i was amazed often how much world war ii meant, constantly saying, why can't we win in slight ma'am? look what we done the battle of the bulge. why can't we win up there? and he was always angry at the air force that they were lazy, they didn't want to bomb, they didn't want to win. a lot of tension between nixon and the pentagon in this book. >> but, i mean, he -- with respect to his military advisers did he respect them, or was it disrespect? >> i think there's some disrespect largely, because he doesn't feel they're wanting to win the war enough. he feels that the pentagon has fatigue of vietnam, and that he wand to come in and increase bombing. he couldn't stand when they said a bombing mission had been canceled because of bad weather. nixon would be, what bad weather? we're america. he wanted to win the war more than anybody else. but even if he lost and he thought he mise lose vietnam, he thought it would show china that he's so mad, nixon is a mad man, he would even tell kissi

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entitled with homage to an honorary citizen, winston churchill -- "the gathering storm."hat was the title of his first book in his series on world war ii. the lead up to that horrific conflagration. i guess i can power through this myself. another brit, samuel johnson, had this to say. i think it applies equally to this. this is, of course, not an isolated incident. what happened to james foley has been happening to thousands of people. at the hands of isis, yes, but at the hands of the jihadists. i want to talk to you about what makes isis a particularly dangerous outfit and then talk about their friends. i think you are probably all aware of these elements. they are actually folks who have been in the fight for some time, notably in syria. they have acquired at no small measure because of the iraqi military that they confronted when they came across the border into iraq, a very substantial arsenal, including a lot of our gear. they have a terrority which was approximated to the state of kentucky. the this is perhaps the most important of the pieces. they have very subst

he wasn't nationallorred of winston churchill's book about the world war ii. do a multiple volume and because well now know there's no proof that he knew about the watergate break-in. he didn't want to destroy the tapes because they actually show that, in the end, he didn't know in advance about watergate, but the amount of just ugly moments on the tapes have damaged nixons legacy and history tremendously. >> a lot of people talk about that, the tapes reveal a coverup, but more to the point the shock value to americans at the time was this coarse language and i'm wondering, someone who has covered all our modern presidents certainly, whether he was unique in that standard was there something to him that seemed to offset what was otherwise a pretty billant mind? >> neil, he grew up in yorba linda, canada, where the presidential library was, and that was a hard scrabble place to be. it's bakersfield and the arid desert country, cowboys and minors, -- miners. he wasn't a great athlete and started adopting a kind of hyper machoism in his language, the s.o.b.s and

understand this crazy quilted border that created the convenientiraq was a artistic drawing by winston churchill with his french allies after world war i. these populations have lived more or less under the threat of terror from saddam hussein. saddam hussein was overthrown. each of them have wanted to go their merry old way. host: richard is next on the independent line. good morning. in 1936, sos born you can do the math as to how old i am. i have a question, maybe a two-part question. it is no doubt and is crystal clear hamas, which is an arm of islam has differences with israel. they also have differences with the united states of america. hisa bin laden stated for resolving some of the problems. what i would like to ask the you evaluate do dislikesthat islam west, along with the which generally means the united states? host: thank you, richard. guest: i was the first jewish ambassador to an arab country in the united states. i spent most of my professional career in the arab world. i can only tell you the vast majority of arabs who are muslim have nothing but the highest desire to live in p

and ben king's performance is forever on my mind but having started on this i must talk about winston churchillhe deeply moving shadow lands which he directed with flair and this part of commemoration of the beginnings of the first world war was a powerful antiwar film and a few of his marvelous movies and as an actor he could play psycho paths and generals and a leader and sailor and he could play a circus owner, how much more versatile can you get. >> his own life reflected the time, the history that he lived through. he lived through the british declining. he was a child of the second world war. certainly he saw aspects of that and saw the soviet union disintegrating and the world changing around him. do you think that is part of the experience and greatness of the film maker himself as well as an actor? >> yes, i this that is a very important point because as he saw so many changes around him, so he was able to project his own form of humanism. for example his hatred of racism and the film freedom had mixed minutes but it was a powerful statement and looking back and he had been in a bomber

i'll put it this way, jimmy carter and ronald reagan made the same kind of deal that winston churchill and roosevelt made with stalin. we need add bad guy on our side. there have been consequences inevitably. >> charlie: which were? i think jimmy carter and ronald reagan knew there would be consequences. if you look at the whole thing, the secret war in the 1980s was a global game changer. the cost of $3 billion and not a single american casualty, the soviet union was defeated, within six months the berlin wall fell, the warsaw pact imploded and two years later the soviet union went out of business. the cold war ended. >> charlie: began with kicking the soviet union out of afghanistan? >> i think that was the catalyst. we'll never know if the soviet union had not been defeated in afghanistan what would have happened. >> charlie: we'll never know if somebody different than gorbachev had been head of the party and resisted more. >> that's right. but we know what did happened. they lost and the cold war came to an end and with that the dangerous of thermonuclear war between the united sta

entitled with homage to an honorary citizen, winston churchill -- "the gathering storm." that was the title of his first book in his series on world war ii. the lead up to that horrific -- i guess i can power through this myself. another brit, samuel johnson, had this to say. i think it applies equally to this. this is, of course, not an isolated incident. what happened to james foley has been happening to thousands of people. at the hands of isis, yes, but at the hands of the jihadists. i want to talk to you about what makes isis a particularly dangerous outfit and then talk about their friends. i think you are probably all aware of these elements. they are actually folks who have been in the fight for some time, notably in syria. they have acquired at no small measure because of the iraqi military that they confronted when they came across the border into iraq, a very substantial arsenal, including a lot of our gear. they have a terrority which was approximated to the state of kentucky. the this is perhaps the most important of the pieces. they have very substantial res

can you imagine winston churchill or harry truman. >> you're saying u.s. troops on the ground to defeat isis because that is the ultimate goal? >> i am saying we should do whatever we have to do. people say americans want troops on the ground. my constituents don't want a couple hundred people killed by an attack from isis. let's set up argument have to be troops on the ground. entire weight of american military, plus work with the kurds, plus provide weaponry with the kurds who have been good fighters. no one more loyal than kurds. and why wit for iraqi government in place. the president says there is possible military action with the government, why wait for that, let's start now. >> all right. congressman peter king, thank you for your views this morning. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> we want a little more depth on the situation in iraq. i'm joined by michael leiter, nbc national security analyst, former director of counter-terrorism. robin wright, author of "rock the casbah," jeffrey goldberg. exclusive interview with hillary clinton on syria, terr

can you imagine winston churchill or roosevelt doing what he's doing.politics, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. seems like no matter what obama does right now, he's seen as a weak leader. might as well play golf. every day hooeds be better off. . >> the republicans are particularly focused on attacking him on lots of things. i think the core of this is if you read obama's interview this weekend, there are a lot of events happening over the world, and america has a very limited ability to impact ends. that's his argument essentially. he would argue he thinks it things will be happening in iraq whether we had a small force there or not. he said that on saturday, in fact. part of it is the republicans want a more interventionist president. even hillary clinton hinted at that in the interview with "the atlantic." she thinks we could be doing more to prevent the development of isis. the president's view is different about that. he came in office to kind of wind down america's role abroad. he's doing that. his approach is a much more limited one