. >> winston packer. i wonder if you could k enumerate the success of the program in terms of numbers of incidents that you have of potential attacks you thwarted because of this program. are there other countries that have the fau program? >> is that directed at me? >> anybody. >> as far as armed pilots in other countries, no. we are unique in that case. for incidents, there were numerous incidents. some we've got to be careful about talking about because they are covered by sensitive security information. i talked about one in general from an offduty was able to stop something. if you remember the shoe bomber and underwear