during the charges against wirz, it was said by the defense of wirz you cannot do this because the war is over, the whole military commission cannot be allowed to exist. and this is my final, final point. which is that defense sounds weird in november of '65. people say, wait, the war is still going on. and so, the prosecution says the spirit of rebellion still exists, even though the war is over. and that puts on the table, well, how do you crush the spirit of rebellion? how do you end an insurgency? how do you end a war? the war's end requires the destruction of a spirit in the process. the wirz commission is like a similar war ending inquisition. it was hardly a venue for truth telling. it exacerbated rather than healed the damage of the war, like many tribunals are meant to do, and it suggested the war was not finished, if it ever would be. then as now, war would abide no deadline. thank you. [applause] so i have taken up -- i sucked up all of my question time. i don't know if i'm allowed any questions. ok, i can take some questions. there is a microphone coming around. >> what did