i think we saw the same wave in wisconsin we saw in other place. it was compounded by the facts that democrats held political power across the board. they were more exposeded than democrats were in some other states. you had a democratic office leaving office with very low approval ratings. they've been in power at the state level and in washington. spending is an issue that resonates in wisconsin. >> ifill: jennifer rooks we think of maine as being the home of the two moderate republican senators. indeed the entire state has gone red and more conservative than even those two senators. >> that's true. most of the candidates that did run for the legislature were running on a more conservative platform than maine is used to. this is really historic. the last time the maine house of representatives was republican, controlled by the republicans, was 1974. and the last time the executive branch and the legislative branch were republican was 1966. you know, generations of mainers have grown up not knowing a republican-controlled government. one of the bi

wisconsin was a police state, very liberal, right? it is against the law to have intercourse until you are 18 years old. but i just ask you this, this is san francisco, let me ask you this -- how many of you have smoked pot? [laughter] i ask this of my students every semester. how many of you have sexual intercourse before age 17? in my state, you are convicted felons. right? so i tell my students, i tell them that i'm going to take my university's 15,000, and going to take my students, and we're going to march down to the police station, and they are all going to confess to having sexual intercourse before age 18. my point is there is no escape anymore. it is not just a criminal records. i really feel sorry for our children and grandchildren. we are telling -- felonizing recreational drugs, felonziinizg recreational sex. i go into prisons, and in interviewing lesbian women who are 19 and 20 years old who get 20 years for having sex with a 17 year-old. she's 19, she 17, she got 20 years. that is what is coming to. in this country now

so, wisconsin is being crafty here.d they are saying, well, we'll have the same sort of provision exempt you don't have to producer papers on the spot. but, rather, we give you 48 hours to produce your papers, will that work. >> i don't think it will work and as i heard the assemblyman say you will have 48 hours to producer paperwork, during the course of which you will be incarcerated and somebody else has to get it for you and we start with this baseline and you know as well as lobby, you are a lawyer, there is federal law and state law and immigration law is done by the feds and the public policy has been, federal law enforcement has to be even across the country, it can't have it stronger in one state than another and when the feds don't do their job as they are not doing now, it is their choice not to in force the law, and to the extent -- enforce the law and to the extent the wisconsin law does what arizona attempted to do, have state law enforcement officials fill the gap, i think it will be blocked by the federa

it would link madison, wisconsin to milwaukee and other major cities. the money from the project comes from the federal stimulus. the governor elect says he doesn't want the state stuck with the bill for maintenance. a bill that could reportedly total more than $7 million a year. mike tobin with the news live from our midwest newsroom. mike? >> well, jon, there is something you don't see very often. state politicians refusing huge federal grants. but incoming governors of two states, ohio and wisconsin are saying those federal dollars carry a heavy price tag. hundreds of millions in federal dollars earmarked to build high speed rail lines. the incoming governors of ohio and wisconsin are saying no thanks. >> we don't have any idea who would even ride the train. this is just the federal government wanting to spend money. >> in wisconsin 810 million federal dollars would build a line between madison and milwaukee. but governor elect scott walker says the trains would not be solve ago big traffic problem. they would, however, create operating expense per s

a hostage standoff at a wisconsin high school is over. the drama ended last night when the 15-year-old gunman shot himself. he held 23 classmates hostage in marinette, wisconsin, for about five hours. tammy elliot is there with details. good morning, what's the latest? >> reporter: police are still here at the school this morning investigating after they say that 15-year-old student turned on his fellow classmates yesterday afternoon in school. and while everyone is relieved, they are still asking why this happened. but they're glad that 23 students and a teacher are alive. students at wisconsin's marinette high school are relieved but shaken this morning. >> i'm just, you know, scared to go back to school. because you never know what can happen. it could happen again. >> reporter: just before classes let out monday, police say a fellow student pulled out a gun in class and fired two shots. the 15-year-old gunman then took 23 other students and his teacher hostage. >> he was not willing to converse with law enforcement, but law enforcemen

and wisconsin parts of minnesota and a cooler day. here you see the clouds lifting north they are the ones that rained on us. and a mix of sun and clouds and rain and storms and west of us. boy, we could use that. and measures great lakes levels down 5 inches. that's michigan and huron. they view that as one lake. and that's not all dry weather. there is a seasonal decline that goes in. and if you tally the water loss that's last month they are mixed with ice pellets. and under the winter storm watch as we'll show you and the 60s we sit right on the demarcation the dividing line between cool air and the warm air that has st. louis at 73 and that's the air. and residents next week. and southern flank and temperatures to the 30s in iowa and. these are temperature drops to the west. let's and the area today. and this arc of clouds this is a system that will spin up in and jet stream and see this speed max here right on the nose and pressures to drop. you follow this impulse and the bend the low will start to recurve. this is what we see

i'm from madison, wisconsin, which is a town not unlike san francisco. they cannot put me on trial in madison in wisconsin, so they took me to the south of carolina, and they put me on trial in strom thurmond federal courthouse in charleston, south carolina. across the street was the confederate cemetery. from the courthouse, they flew two flags -- the u.s. flag and the confederate battle flag, which was the state flag of south carolina. from the court room, i could look out the window and seaport sumter in the distance -- see fort sumter. they put me on a case with no marijuana. they invented imaginary marijuana. they said i was charged with conspiring to contribute 10 tons of colombian marijuana. i pled not guilty. i had a jury trial. i was found guilty on one account, acquitted on nine. i had an appellate case and the supreme court case. i was then facing 15 years. since may to nine. when i went to federal prison, i did time in eight different states in nine different federal prisons, including four penitentiaries -- that is a maximum security. includ

in the five hole. >> tim: what about wisconsin?r: wisconsin is a great position -- those 83 points they hung on indiana is what is bolstering them right now on the subjective side of this b.c.s. equation. don't forget that. >> tim: t.c.u. has to sit and wait and watch. boise state gets nevada next week. that's a top-20 team. if they could blow out them, chances are they would move into number three and that helps if oregon or auburn loses. >> tony: boise state is going to jump over t.c.u. if they win out. >> spencer: you hit it on the head. the close call last week to san diego state hurlts them. >> tim: wehave other action to talk to you about. speaking of teams in the sec, spurrier knows he's in atlanta. he's going to be in the sec championship game, tony. >> tony: marcus lattimore scores a touchdown. marcus only had seven carries, 102 yards, three touchdowns -- south carolina another nonconference game next week at clemson. >> tim: all points ahead to atlanta and the match-up with auburn. appalachian state taking on florida. thi

this is wisconsin.e're talking about wisconsin, we're going to talk about the senate in wisconsin. russ feingold, one of the most liberal men of the senate lost his seat in wisconsin. that is a huge blow for the democratic party. the republicans have gained that. emily, you want to finish up what you were telling us? >> it would be very interesting to see if there is sort of a relationship between what happens in the senate and what happens in the house as a result of that. we'll be watching that carefully on the back of the russ feingold victory. another place where that might be interesting to watch is illinois. don't forget, this is in the senate, barack obama's old seat, mark kirk who was the house representative here for the republicans is standing this time and is left open to dan seals and bob dole. bob dole made an advertisement in which dan became a seal and the most extraordinary thing people will take away from this race. it's extremely tight and maybe the democrats have one chance of holding

we can bring back wisconsin and we can bring back america.our efforts and may god continue to bless the greatest nation in the history of mankind, america. thank you all. god bless you. [cheers and applause] >> in the ohio governor race, democratic incumbent ted strickland was defeated by former congressman john kasich. now the victory speech by gov.- elect kasich. ♪ [cheers and applause] >> guess what? i'm going to be governor of ohio. we want to thank you, ohio, for the confidence you have shown in me tonight. i want to thank my wife. how about this wifi have, huh? and my daughters, anna and -- emma and reece. they joined me on the trail and they were exceptional. they are great, great part of the family. so i went to think of the many supporters, volunteers, and staff who have worked so hard over the past many months. this is all about the team. this team is not going away. you are staying with us all the way through. i needed to have your commitment. we have to do this together and rebuild this state together. [applause] i would think peo

wisconsin had 558 yards in total offense. henry, another pick, this one goes all the way back.rs' third game of the season with 70 or more points. wisconsin wins this one, ouch, 70-23. >>> ohio state and michigan state both won, but the rose bowl will go to the big 10 team with the best ranking in the bcs standings, which come out tomorrow. wisconsin should get the call to pass dean na. >>> notre dame trying to beat usc for the first time in nine years out in l.a. it came down to the wire. irish down 16-13 late, but score a touchdown on the rain- soaked turf. one final chance, harrison smith, bad pass, picks it off in the end zone. notre dame wins its last three of the season to finish 7-5, beating usc 20-16. >>> high school football playoffs, back-to-back titles in the 5a bracket, family classic. great grab in the end zone for a touchdown, three touchdowns. 34-21, the final. >> especially for a great group of kids, great leadership, you know, two-time defending state champs sounds good. pep rally sometime next week. enjoy this one for a week and then we'll get back to work in

wisconsin 83, indiana 20. there have been other outlandish scores, this season.oregon slam-dunked new mexico 72-0. ohio state beat eastern michigan 73-20. and last night, undefeated boise state won 51-0 over fresno state. but this was wisconsin planning one of its -- planting one of its own conference brethren into the turf. indiana coach bill lynch refused to speculate on the score. >> i have always thought it's our job to stop the team and win the game. we didn't do that well. they're a great football team. >> reporter: former northwestern player and "sun-times" columnist says the beat-down was harsh. >> it is rude. there is no question about it. >> reporter: rude, but a reality in the b.c.s. -- the bowl championship series -- where the top teams are determined by computers that only look at wins and losses and people who also look at scores. >> it's a message that, yeah, we want to be ranked pretty high for all you voters who are affected by this. >> reporter: some teams feel the best way to affect the voters is with what's called style points. that is, runnin

paul ryan of wisconsin is a member of that commission. i spoke with him earlier and asked what those conservative critics are missing? >> they are missing that erskine bowles a democrat appointee by president obama, former clinton chief of staff is saying we need lower tax rates. we need to lower tax rates on corporations lower tack rates on individuals if we want economic growth and international competitiveness. yes there's part of this that i would change clearly. i would have taken that extra trillion into lowering tack rates and cap tail gains dividends that's -- capital gains dividends. what we have is centrist consensus among democrats we should not be playing class warfare, we should not raise rates, lower rates for economic growth and prosperity that's a cool thing i think. >> paul: one of the proposals they reduced the top rate to 26% that's been the goal of a lot of conservatives for a long time. >> many of us. >> paul: is this basis, think, for potentially a bipartisan tax reform between republicans and president obama? the ki

-- points the wisconsin football team has put up on the scoreboard every time wisconsin scores. 83 points in their last game this weekend that meant poor old bucky badger was on the hook for a total of 535 pushups. all while wearing a heavy bucky head and rain-soaked bucky suit. after the first half and 89 pushups bucky badger left the stadium and somebody in the bucky badger suit came back out. happened again later on in the fourth quarter. we asked on yesterday's show, is there more than one bucky badger? yes. the wisconsin "state journal" confirms today there's more one bucky badger. saturday's game there were, in fact, three bucky badger portrayers and share just two very sweaty bucky badger suits for the whole game. the first bucky badger did a total of 158 pushups, pt second bucky completed 294 pushups and the third, 83 pushups. 148, 284, and 73 more respectively than i concurrently do. i'm being generous to myself. on, wisconsin. p-a-d... p.a.d. isn't just poor circulation in your legs causing you pain. it more than doubles your risk of a heart attack or stroke. i was goi

evanth ranked wisconsin put in -- sevth ranked wisconsin played against indiana.ying without the star running back john clay, the badgers had over 300 yards and six touchdowns. in total, wisconsin scores 11 touchdowns and 83 points. it is the most points in school history since 1915. and the most in a big 10 game in 60 years. wisconsin beat indiana 83-20. and improves to 9-1. >>> notre dame hosting 14- ranked used. three touchdowns. and two in the third quarter. the irish score 28 unanswered points and win 28-3. notre dame is one win away from becoming bowl eligible. >>> other big games this afternoon. tcu beat san diego state to improve to 11-0. and the ohio state blew out penn state 38- 14. and northwestern knocks off number 13 iowa 21-17. >>> and baseball, the season expected to heat up at the general managers meeting this week and dennis o'donnell takes a look at what should be a busy off-season for the world series champs. >> here it is. struck him out. >> and for the first time since 1954, the giants are world champions. >> the last out was followed by the c

thousands remain without power in wisconsin and illinois.t could be dangerous as temperatures will be below freezing. >>> normally when the rest of the country is getting pounded, the bay area usually doesn't see much. that's not the case today. most of the rain is snow is to the north of us. snow in seattle, washington, oregon, now coming down into northern california. plenty of snow to the north and rain along the coast line. this storm is sitting to the west of washington right now. it is pulling in cold air from canada. the circulation is this motion here. this is the way it's moving. pulling in the told air from canada and picking up moisture over the ocean. we could see some bursts of heavy rain tomorrow and even snow. i mentioned the cold. look at the temperatures right now. up to the north, cold air is starting to filter in. 25 in seattle. 29 portland, 12 in spokane. we will see chilly temperatures as well. overnight tonight, especially wednesday into thursday. a look at future cast, tomorrow, heavy rain picking up at 2:00 a.m. over

crave brothers is one of wisconsin's largest and most successful family dairy farms. but 30 years ago, few could have predicted its success. the crave family lived on a small farm. but their father, bob, sold it in the mid-1970s. in 1978, fresh out of college, charlie and george wanted to get back into farming. they rented some land and began with 50 cows. a couple of years later, the two bought this farm and began buying more cows and more land. tom and mark joined them along the way. from the beginning, the craves thought big. >> why monkey with a small corn planter if i could operate a large one? let's use our skills in a more contemporary fashion. >> reporter: when the craves started this operation in 1980, there were about 40,000 dairy farmers in the state of wisconsin. today, there are only about 13,000. many of those producers have gone out of business because the price of milk has been relatively flat, while other farm costs have risen. the craves say the key to surviving and thriving in this industry is innovation. >> each one of those vats will produce about

in wisconsin, a gun man releases 24 hostages after a standoff.e are broadcasting in america and around the globe. coming up later on, the battle for somali'a's future. and a shock for the art world as over 200 unknown works by picasso are unveiled. now the legal battle for ownership. u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton has described the disclosure of classified documents by wikileaks as an attack on the international community. our diplomatic correspondent reports that the leaked file talks about prince andrew's behavior. >> a caustic american view of a british royal abroad -- prince andrew. according to the u.s. ambassador he burst on rude. -- verged on rude. he lashed out into the probe and bribes.rleged saudi senior chinese officials apparently told the u.s. and north korea was behaving like this. a spoilt child. a classified report from the u.s. of the state speculated what might happen if kim jong il died. china has limited influence and could be persuaded to accept south korea taking over. tonight, the u.s. secretary of state, herself a

we're just simple wisconsin people here.know what needs to be done to get ourselves out of a deep hole. the numbers are quite staggering. you know that. the last two years we have incurred over 1.4 trillion dollar a year deficit. our national debt stands at almost 14 trillion dollars. 15 million people are out of work. we need to reverse course. my campaign has really been pretty simple. because i think the priority is pretty straightforward. it will not be easy, it will be hard, but we know what we need to do. we need to restore fiscal sanity to this nation. [applause] certainly one of the ways we can restore fiscal sanity is to repeal the health care bill -- [applause] which will not only save us trillions of dollars in deficit, but it will destroy a health care system if we do not repeal it. throughout the campaign, i have been reminded frequently at the lady and the karlan town hall meeting and she said you have awakened a sleeping giant, well, i certainly welcome. it was not the health care plot. it started a few days b

on saturday the wisconsin football team scored 8 # points. wisconsin 83, indiana 20.points, 11 touchdowns, two field goals. with bucky having to do push-ups equal to the number of points on the wisconsin score board every time there was a new score, that turns out to be a total of 573 push-ups in a big plushy suit with a giant fur head on. here is the mystery after wisconsin scored the 76th point, here is what happened, bucky badger left the stadium after having done 414 push-ups. six minutes later bucky, or someone wearing the same bucky suit came back and finished all the push-ups expected of him or her all 573 of them. by the time the badgers were done running up the score against poor indiana. was it the same bucky? whoever came out the second time seemed remarkably refreshed and capable unlike the bucky badger that left before. is one mascot depicter able to do 573 crowd pleasing push-ups while wearing a plushy badger suit? so far the athletics department is not talking at least to us. for us bucky the badger gate is still unresolved. next week we're not planning

makes it 24-10 wisconsin. they're just getting started.points are the most in the sbs this year and the most in a big ten game in 60 years. 83-20 your final. >> joe paterno. penstate visiting iowa. the first passing touchdown by a joe pa penn state team. nittany lie -- lions. this is returned for the chowfnl ohio state on top, 17-14. in the fourth, pass deflected. 58-yard touchdown 24-14. ohio state goes on to win it 38-14. your final. remember to join us on after the game following the arizona-usc contest right here at 5:00. we'll have highlights and scores from the day's college football action. >>> the 49ers ready to make noise after a win over the broncos in london. the rams are coming to town on sunday. troy smith with start his second game at quarterback. 49ers at the midway point of the season and they're confident they can make the next step in the second half of the campaign. >> for u.s., the most important thing, like in every year, is november and december. and hopefully we have learned a lot of things from the first half of the

they are getting more snow in parts of wisconsin and minnesotaful as the day heats up -- wisconsin andsota. as the day heats up, it isn't a scand significant snowstorm, but it is an indication that the season it there -- is there, it is just catching up with us. five days of terrific weather. two degrees warmer at this point than yesterday morning. but that's just a technicality. that same spread in outliing areas existed yesterday. 72% the humidity. 30.26 the barometric pressure. winds are calm. let's look at a sampling of temperatures elsewhere. annapolis is 43. camebridge is 36. on the boardwalk it is 40. 35 elkton. parkton 34. edgewood 39. freezing in hagerstown. a lot of 20's. some of the low spots in the valley. out there with dry air, lack of wind. some areas adropped down. petersburg 27. shen doia national park, 22 -- shenandoah national park, 22 degrees this morning. i wouldn't be surprised if someone around our area out to our west, especially western howard county or carroll county in a couple of those areas out there, 28 or 29 might very well before sunrise or so. here we h

republican congressman paul ryan of wisconsin is a member of that commission. i spoke with him earlier and asked him with those conservative critics are missing. >> well, they're missing that erskine bowles, a democratic appointee by president obama, former clinton chief of staff is saying we need to lower tax rates. we need to lower tax rates in corporations and lower taxes on individuals if we want economic and international competitiveness. yes, there's part of this i would change clearly. would have taken that extra trillion dollars and put it into lowering capital gains and dividends and that's what i would have done and will continue to advocate. what we have here is centrist among centrist democrats. lower the economic rates for world prosperity, i think that's a pretty cool thing, i think. >> paul: the goal of lower tax rates and i think one of their proposal in one of their proposal they reduced the top rate to 26%, that's a goal of an awful lot of conservatives. >> many of us. >> is this the basis, do you think for potentially, a bipartisan tax reform

seventh ranked wisconsin puts it in another gear against indiana.aying without their star running back john clay, the badgers won for over 300 yards and six touchdowns, and in total, wisconsin scores 11 touchdowns, and 83 points. it is the most points in school history. since 1915. and the most in big 10 game in 60 years. wisconsin beats indiana, 83-20. and improves to 9-1. >>> notre dame hosting 14th ranked utah. the freshman quarterback tommy reeves throws two touchdowns here and the irish have 28 unanswered points and won 28-3. and notre dame is one win away from becoming bowl eligible. >>> as for the locals, stanford is losing to arizona state 13- 10 in the third. number one oregon leads cal 15- 13. that game also in the third quarter. we will have full highlights at 11:00. >>> baseball, the hot season expected to heat up at the general manager's meetings and dennis o'donnell looks at what should be a busy off-season for the world series champs. >> here it is. struck him out. and for the first time since 1954, the giants are world champions. >>

a teacher and 23 other students being held hostage inside this high school in northern wisconsin. police have surrounded this scene and no injuries as far as we know. >> the somali born 19 year- old has pleaded not guilty at an oregon christmas tree lighting ceremony in portland. here is a photo of mohammad, he entered a plea in federal court. he was arrested friday night in an fbi sting operation. after several months of investigation and the fbi is going to invthis is related to other attacks with television ties? women neighborhood by neighborhood, 36 in napa, and 32 degrees in livermore expecting patchy frost to the north bay and inland. the upper 30's, and the mid 30's into the south bay. in the south bay, it will stay on the cooler side with increasing cloudiness to the afternoon faugh and 55 degrees in santa rosa, and 55 in novado, with more sunshine in the south bay in tomorrow afternoon. and a look at the stormtracker 4 radar in a storm of to the north with plenty of rain. and it is going to bring us increasing cloud coverage. the unexpected rain fall until wednesday and

and wisconsin and minnesota. north of the twin cities and bay field, wisconsin.row will be to the north and west of us but you cannot rule out a sprinkle. here is the storm. you will see as it moves north it will develop a snow area and backside that swirls through the upper and western midwest later in the weekend. there is the showing up right there. there are some early indications in northwest wisconsin and or eastern minnesota could wind up with six inches of snow and saturday into sunday. for us we look for a high of 61 tomorrow. cooler at the lake. warmer in the suburbs. a period of showers and storms after a mix of sun and clouds in the morning, developing late morning and morning. exiting. with we'll turn windy and cooler on saturday. clouds back by morning. and then just a cloudy blustery 43-degree day on sunday. lots of clouds monday and tuesday. showers. another front goes through on wednesday and by thursday, even colder air that dominates through the end of the week. no more 60s. ky see... >> ever? >> i would not write off some 60 before it is all o

wisconsin beets indiana 83-20 and improves to 89-1.emains unbeaten with a 49-31 win over georgia and notre dame >>> some other notable games. the spartans are now 1-9. second ranked auburn remains unbeaten with a 49-31 win over georgia and notre dame knocked off 14th ranked utah 28-3. >>> the warriors wrapped up their five-game road trip in milwaukee and that means they'll have to play home with the phrase fear the deer stuck in their heads. corey maggette scored two points against his former team. monta ellis beets the buzzer with the fade-away three. 24 more for monta but the warriors would shoot a season low 34%. third quarter drew gooden whips it inside for andrew bogut for the easy layup. the bucs led by 15 after three. the warriors would get it close, as close toes as three rate, but no answer for john salmons who puts in a game-high 26 points, the warriors finish the road trip 2-3. >>> mls eastern conference finals. the quakes come up short this their bid to make to it the championship. colorado scores the game's only goal, his

brigs is town chairman of monico, wisconsin. the town where he launched his space program. has a three-pump gas station, a two-bit bar and now, thanks to frank, one remote planetarium. >> this is the most remote planetarium in the world. >> reporter: frank basically built in the his backyard. >> to be a planetarium director, you need college, but if you build your own, you can run it. >> reporter: frank still works part time at the paper mill, but this is now his full-time passion. he opened a few years ago-- although so far business has been far from stellar. how long since somebody's been here? >> it's been about three days. >> reporter: needless to say, visitors can usually get right in. >> i'd like to welcome all of you to the kovac planetarium. >> reporter: it's just me, you don't to say all the... >> okay, well, my name is frank kovac and i built the largest rolling mechanical globe planetarium. >> reporter: because frank couldn't afford a fancy system, he came up with a way to move evens instead. and as for the individual stars... >> i took paint and i painted every

state of wisconsin. fox news project russ feingold lost the race to ron johnson and feingold campaigned on his support for health care overhaul . he lost his seat. state of democrat. barbara boxer holds on her seat and defeated carlie fiorina. she spent more than 140 million of her own dollars to try to win the seat and goes down in defeat. nevada, one of the most important races it looks like we will not have a result at this moment. a motorist in southeast las vegas ran into a transformer and knocked out power x. nevadans will not release until everyone has a chance to vote. the numbers on your screen reflect 19 percent of the vote for the senate seat of the senate majoritiy leader harry reidi am shepard smith. the news starts now. >> it is a political drama on a national stage as we watch the race results come in. and many contests are already decided . we are still waiting for answers. about the impact of the tea party movement and weather the president helped democrats. and what about the early vote

i just look at wisconsin. wisconsin went for barack obama by 13 points in 2008. wisconsin in the state legislature was deeply controlled by democrats, five of the eight congressional delegations were democrats and in wisconsin we took the state legislature, beat russ feingold, took the governor and took two congressional seats. >> rose: but was it a specific issue having to do with spending? was it a specific issue having to do with health care? >> it was everything. health was the straw t straw that broke the camel's back. it was the direction the country has been taken. i think it was all of the spending, all of the borrowing, all of the economics. it was not focused on jobs. the stimulus... everything stacked on top of each other gave people a sense that the government has become untethered toward our basically core founding principles and that we were running on an agenda that was unsustainable. borrowing, taxes, debt, deficits. and in our area where it's really a small business driven economy, the uncertainty was killing us and so it was all this uncertainty