leading off our discussion is andrew wiseman, former fbi general council and former chief of the criminal division, a professor at nyu law school. glenn kirschner is with us, and voice vance, a former u.s. attorney and professor at the university alabama school of law. they are all msnbc legal analysts. and, joyce, the big question after a ruling like that is will it stand up on appeal? and what are donald trump's appeal rights under that decision? >> right, so this decision by judge chutkan choosing not to recuse in this case is extremely well reasoned and tough on appeal. the appeal route in a setting like this is usually a bit different. trump could try to ask the court of appeals to issue an order of mondamus. judge chutkan does everything right in this case including pointing out no reasonable observer would think she's prejudiced. lawrence, the problem i'm left with after reading this is it's clear to the lawyers what she said was taken out of context. it's clear to her. she's the one who said it after all, so the question is why would the lawyers go to this sort of extreme? and the

vice president wiseman. ward. yes. president bogus. yes. seven eyes. thank you. okay. and with that, that i just wanted to make an announcement about public comment before we move a little further into the agenda. public comment will be happening under item f, the board has shifted from when public comment happens from when it historically has in previous years. so now all the public comment for this board meeting for items on the agenda as well as items off the agenda are going to happen at the beginning of the meeting versus having public comment after every item with an intention of giving more opportunity for folks to comment earlier in the evening as we also work to make sure our meetings are shorter so people can pay more attention and be more focused to what we're doing in the public. and so with that, i will pass it on to our superintendent, who will now share his superintendents report. good evening, everyone. thank you. president bogus and. let's see, we are in on the presentation up. we are in september and this month we are

ayell wiseman in his latest book, refers to a phenomenon called amazing symmetry, which indicates how water and oil have caused chaos in west asia. white men argues, when we see the map of the areas targeted by western zones in the region, we realize that many of those areas from south waziristan to north of yemen, somalia, iraq, gaza and libya, are directly on or near a line with low precipitation, about 15 years ago, it was mentioned in a report by the us army that the future of west asia has always been tied to two natural resources: oil due to its abundance and water due to its scarcity. during those years, fighter jets would fly over oil rich areas and now drones hover over the dry regions that suffer from lack of water. bombs are after oil and drones are in search of drought. crowd and violence are interwoven, and if we add oil to the equation, the result would be the crisis west asian nations have been dealing with in recent years. the relation between drought and violence isn't limited to west asia, in a joint study by berkley and princeton university. cities in 2013 about the

yes vice president wiseman award. yes. president bogus. yes thank you for the next item i move approval of the stipulated expulsion agreement of one middle school student matter number 2023 dash 2024. dash number four from the district for the remainder of the fall, 2023 semester and spring 2024 semester can i have a second? second. can i have a roll call vote, please? mr. steele? commissioner alexander. yes, commissioner fisher. yes commissioner lamb. yes commissioner mahtomedi. yes. commissioner sanchez. yes. vice president wiseman. ward. yes. president bogus. yes. seven us now. i will continue with a report from closed session on on a vote of 7 to 0. the board took action to waive a conflict regarding a litigation matter in one matter of anticipated litigation, the board by a vote of seven yeses, gives direction to the general counsel in one matter of anticipated litigation, the board by a vote of six yeses and one recusal recruit excuse me, one recusal. commissioner fisher gives direction to the general counsel in the matter of elk ver

joining me now andrew wiseman, former fbi general council and former member of special robert mueller's investigation. thank you both for joining me as i lose my voice throughout the hour. >> we'll talk. >> exactly, that was my hope. let me start with you, george. it is not subtle what trump's strategy here is, right? there's a reason "the godfather" imagery is around us. can it work? >> no, not in this case because there's just too much of it. if you have just one of these incidents, one circumstance where he's saying, jeez, what if we didn't hand these documents to corcoran, maybe alone it wouldn't be enough, but you've got him moving the documents. you've got the direction about destroying the videotape footage. now you've got this statement that he made to molly michaels, which is pretty close -- you don't know anything about this when she knows damn well she knew there were more than 50 boxes of ones turned over to the government. you've got that, the plucking. corcoran saying what if -- there's anything bad in there, he's got that. his lawyer felt compelled to write all that down,

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good evening, reverend wiseman.d evening, neil. >> good evening, neil. >> i really do have to ask you why , why, why are you opening why, why, why are you opening these church doors to dogs and cats and the rest when i was under the impression that churches were for folk ? churches were for folk? >> well , because dogs and cats >> well, because dogs and cats and all the rest are very much part of our families and they are something to celebrate. and we're doing this. we do this every year, very close to the feast day of saint francis of assisi, who was known for his love of animals around him. so and my goodness, pets are just such an important part of people's lives. and we want to celebrate that and give thanks and bring them in. it's that's and bring them in. it's that's an interesting angle that you raise there. >> will you be will you be telling? i think there'll be a lot of children there, amongst others. will you be telling them about assisi, about saint francis of assisi, who a fascinating historical who is

good evening, reverend wiseman.d evening, neil. >> good evening, neil. >> i really do have to ask you why , why, why are you opening why, why, why are you opening these church doors to dogs and cats and the rest when i was under the impression that churches were for folk ? churches were for folk? >> well , because dogs and cats >> well, because dogs and cats and all the rest are very much part of our families and they are something to celebrate. and we're doing this. we do this every year, very close to the feast day of saint francis of assisi, who was known for his love of animals around him. so and my goodness, pets are just such an important part of people's lives. and we want to celebrate that and give thanks and bring them in. it's that's and bring them in. it's that's an interesting angle that you raise there. >> will you be will you be telling? i think there'll be a lot of children there, amongst others. will you be telling them about assisi, about saint francis of assisi, who a fascinating historical who is

most was on the special investigation of hunter biden, merrick garland offered no insight into wis wiseman'satus to four years into the case. >> mr. weiss will have an opportunity to explain. >> reporter: in today's hearing, he may explain that david weiss has the answers to the questions, negotiating with the justice department to four weeks, and testimony from weiss on october 18, but it could shut down their efforts to get the special counsel under oath and on the record, j.b. >> james: good to see you, catherine herridge. the man charged with ambushing and shooting a los angeles county deputy last week and plead not guilty by reason of insanity. captain leo salazar was arrested monday after a standoff with police. his family says he has mental health issues including schizophrenia. dozens of officers turned out to salute the fallen deputy ryan clinkunbroomer as his family prepares for his funeral. tonight a high school ban director in alabama is accusing birmingham police of using excessive force. he was arrested after a postgame scuffle with officers in front of parents and students tha

oil prices, which not only affects inflation but also puts a damper on gdp, former economist david wiseman, taught me every $10 increase in the price of oil takes off 1/5 of 1% of real gdp, higher oil does tend to slow the economy. neil: wonder how you factor in all these strikes, a good many have been 400,000 workers when you think about it. including what could be these uaw workers, minimum of what they want. they turn 20 down 21% hikes offered by one of the big three. i'm wondering, do you move on something like this or way along with the generous teamsters with ups or if this is part of a trend of higher wages? >> i'm looking at how it affects or affects inflation. what most people don't understand is sticky wages is a big part and big component of sticky inflation and the problem is these guys think they are getting a better deal by having higher wages but to the degree higher wages push up inflation you then have to take real wages into account which means subtracting inflation out of their wages because cost of living is getting higher and purchasing power is going down so by insist

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vice president wiseman award. yes. president bogus. yes. seven. yes. thank you. the second item is the report from closed session in the matter of student rob versus san francisco unified school district. oh a h. case number. (202)!a306-0591. te board, by a vote of seven yeses, gives the authority of the district to pay up to the stipulated amount. okay. and with that, we will begin the process of transitioning to our item d, the discussion item. just wanted to share a few words before we do. just wanted to clarify for everyone that the board is not going to be voting on school closures tonight, but we are going to be having a conversation about our structural deficit in the ways that we are looking to solve that deficit, to have better outcomes for students. and so i just wanted to lift that up and to, i think, make that clear for folks, because i know that initially there was an item that was set for action and that has been removed. and i just really wanted to give clarity about kind of what we're doing today and it being a part of our broader process of align

>> certainly wiseman on school? >> patchnly wiseman on school? >> patch does. wiseman on school? well, that's all day allowed to happen day and not allowed to happen until the end of day. the vast be enforced easily. >> vast majority of >> the absolute vast majority of schools that rule that schools have that as a rule that if you have if you are if you if you have if you are seen with your phone out of your bag, you will a detention or bag, you will get a detention or whatever. and some of them have tried of various ways, tried all sorts of various ways, but complicated it but it's too complicated and it it but it's not just it just and, but it's not just about it's not that it's about it's not really that it's when get home at night, when they get home at night, it's when they're in their bedrooms. it's about making a smartphone socially smartphone for a child socially unacceptable, smartphone for a child socially unacythink)le, smartphone for a child socially unacythink we should have. emma >> i think we should have. emma webster destroy the dark web. i think should have. webs

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vice president wiseman more to add a little bit more. sure. yeah so this, as you all know, this came up during our board self evaluation and it was one of the items that we thought we could get through an important item, but one that we thought we could get through with relative ease and relatively quickly there was a number of evaluate metrics that were included with the council for great city schools self evaluation. i think we are going to be looking very carefully and speaking with general counsel to make sure that the metrics, the evaluation metrics are in fact compliant with all of the laws. and we're not violating anyone's first amendment rights, but we'll be looking to include language that we would agree to sign during our current terms of office language. there's other examples whether we agree on language that we shouldn't give operational advice or instruction to staff members. there's recommendations that came from the self evaluation. i think we will use those as a starting point. but in, in conversation with with our chair of th

vice president wiseman. ward here. and president. bogus here. thank you. okay. at this time, before the board goes into closed session, i call for any speakers for closed session items listed in the agenda. there will be a total of five minutes for speakers. are there any cards? there are none in person. are there any hands is

. >> i mean, andrew, wiseman believing the earth is flat doesn't make it flat when on trial in a courtis is eastman's defense. i'm still looking for the fraud and four more inches in my height but i'm sure at this point in my life i'm not going to find it. this is my height. is the true believer thing a thing? >>, so i can't believe i'm doing this going to quote pat cipollone to the january 6th committee, at some point you have to put up and say what facts are. so, you know, you might want to believe something is true, but, you know, there's a difference between that and evidence. even rudy giuliani said we only have theories. we don't have evidence to i think it was rusty bowers. the other thing that for jeff clark and i don't think this is going to -- i don't think that this argument that he might have been a true believer will prevent him from being charged. i do think that of all the people after trump, the department of justice is going to have such a keen interest in holding somebody like jeff clark to account given what he did at the department. remember, one of the things that