i sat down withim at his home in chevy chase. you studied at the mercy of maryland with an undergrad in business. you minored in computer science at a time when not a lot of people thought that was serious. only the nerds did that. now, you're into very know w how -- talk about career builder and how you started the company. >> i have always been interesesd in technology. it did seem like the logical thing toto type punch cards, lie the right row graham -- program. i was in the computer industry working for hewlett-packard. >> you're a product manager? >>>> a new internet came along. someone showed me the first web browser. this is in 1994. there are no graphics. they said this is going to change everything. that is what i started thinking about that as an enabler of something big. then, i said people havto find jobs differently. potential employees can connect. and the idea cacame along. >> did you have the occant or street or was that a hardepart to leave a company like hewlett-packard? >> i was raised by a singlele mm since hi