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. >> rose: in other words,hat d youo wng, is one way. or what did y fail toee? i'm ging you the value of hindght now that perhaps you could t have seen ithen you took office in january of 2009. >> frankly i'd return to what weere just discussing, which is the unempyment rate has trended higher than you wld ha expected basedon wh's been hpening to economic acvity and g.d.p and that... you know, that was surprise. >> rose: are your assumptions about the economy a little bit different or significantly different, say, from t congressiol c.b.o.? >> when we update i august, our so-calledid-session review, our assutions will be inline th private sector forecasters anthe most recen set of congressional budget offic projections for the onomy. >> rose: s you're suggesting by... within a month wall street c.b.o., office of management and budget will have ptty much the same basis. >> roughly in lin, yes. and one of the this that happenedast time, there's bee a loof discuion about this, is when you okay down the assumptions, when the tuation is evolving rapidly, camatter. so

how do you interpret what he meant by "wng" >> that the policies were misguid.hat thewhole ideaf necsary war in order to preve communist aggression failed to ta into consideration t fact that there was not intertional commust at work but a country lookin establish its iependence. i think one thing that s foot nen this who mcnara story that rurns again and aga to vietnam is that mcnamar was a rson who pt the lid on that he perceived and i think rightly so that there waan enormous daerf nuclear war. and thatis principal job was prevent that at all costs fromappening. i am asked quite often about he relationship between donald rumsfeld a robert mcnama. >> i havet asked you that. >> you hen't asked me b is oft expressed as the two thnocrats, two sis of the sa coin. and i like t rind pple that wn mcnumber ara took fice in 1960,e was faci a bellicose joint chiefs. thre was the fear of a preemptive nuclear strike against the soviet union. nd part of his story is the story of an attempt to control nuear weans and to prevent theossibility ofuclear war. >> is yur reportin

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>>ose: it was wng, war, in 1968. >> let me not use quite those words. i didn't believehat there was no threat. i beeved that in a sense einhower's statement in 1954 of the minos and in 1961 to president keedy and me if we lost ls and vietnam we'd lose all soutast asia. ifwe lost all of southeast asia we're likely to lose all of area, incling india. if we did that, the power of the mmunists against western europe a against this nation would increase. now, that wa what appeared to be at risk if we los vietnam. >> rose: that's the ideology that sped all of you. johnson, kennedy, everybody. >> absolutely. >> rose: we uerstand that. >> buthat i think by your qution those who asked this question don understand is it's one thing to say mamara believed and tol theresident at the war wasot winble militarily. it's another thingto say tt he believed thefore we should justay to hell with it and go. now i believwe should have said that then. but at tt time, i was still obsessed with th sovie threat. give me a cond to tell why. because ialways as questioners on the t

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moyers: but during this5 years you re there, did you go to them and say, "you ow, i think we're on the wng think wee fighting the wrong people here." >> you know, i didn't,ecause for mostf the time i was there, i felt that what we we doing was the right thing,nd that i was playing oa team that was horable. i just didn't ally get it all that much until towa the end of my tenure at cign >>oyers: what did you see? >> well, i was beginning to questi what i was doing as the indury shifted from selling primarily managed re plans to what they refer to as conser- driven plans and they're ally plans that have very high ductibles, meaning that they're shiftina lot of the cost of heah care from employers and insurs, insurance companies, to individuals. and a loof people can't even afford to make tir co-payments when they go get care, aa result othis. but it rlly took a trip back home to tennessee for me to e exactly what is happening so many amecans. i... >> moyers: when s this? >> thiwas in july of 2007. >> moys: you were still working for cigna? >> i was. i went home visit relatives. and i picked u

. >> it included tax cuts, but a t of them are in the wng direction. why not make re we focused on small business and, also, on corporations which now have the highest tax rates of any -- of any country in the world. >> here' what his top economic advisor said this week. people know that problems of th seriousness cannot be turned aroun in six months or nine months. "one of the president's strengths and s his extraordinary candor the president has been honest with the american people about the enormity of the challenge and the amount of time it will take to turn things arou. then the psident yesterdayn his radio address said this recovery act has worked as tended. is he leveling with the american people? >> ll, i'm sure the president is doing everything that he can to try toelp this economy. >> but is he leveling? is he being straight? >> well, he is either not leveli now o he wasn't leveling at the time of the passage ofhetimulus package because they said the maximum unemployment would be at 8%. that's what they told us. it's 9.5%, goingo 10%. they sa

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