green performance space of wnyc in new york city. it's about an hour, 15 minutes. .. that kind of thing. it became a real dynamic hub for political strategies to get those policies put into place. we just incorporated a few months ago and when the process of expanding that this is our first program that we've done in the nature and were delighted to have both of you with us. thank you so much. and just a quick reminder to the folks in the audience, even though i'm sure you party type, check your cell phone when my time and make sure it's off if you don't mind. and then also for those of you in the audience, we have somebody selling both of these great books, so be sure to head they are when done. and so we are here at a really interesting moment. the midterms are mere weeks away and according to polls we have an ecs and gap, which liberals would say is because obama has not done quite what they expect it and conservative democrats and independent voters would say he's been far too radical. so what better time to have the debate than a few weeks before the midterm so p