. >> but what i think is that nevertheless, the relationship between picasso and myself on the wole was not negative. it was extremely positive with negative aspects, like any other relationship, you know, but i think that with him, it did not destroy -- you see, in a sense, because he had a very sadistic side to him but i would say that with me, he was also my kind of -- >> rose: independence. >> admired my independence, and so he did not -- he did not try to destroy me. i think it was worse with many other women. >> rose: much worse. >> don't you think? >> yes. >> so i think in a sense, in a sense, i think he never wanted to destroy me, and so that is why maybe i am still there, and also, i have something when i said that, oh of course, always exaggerated, because. >> rose: claude, your son. >> one day, when i was really about to leave picasso told me, you know, you are complaining about the ten years you spent with me, but i will give them to you back at the end of your life. and now that i am 90, i think, because nobody lives that long in my family, you know. so i think probably i b