this is falcon last night talking with wolf blitzer on ""larry king live"." let's listen. >> falcon, did you hear us calling your name at any time? >> mm-hmm. >> you did? >> you did? >> why didn't you come out? >> um, you guys said that we did this for the show. >> yeah -- >> no. >> okay, stacy. you see mom in there, the two brothers look both ways at the parents. what's your read on that? >> i had a couple reactions to that. first of all the boy sounds completely honest and sincere when he comes out with that. kids are not good liars. they usually reveal it by moving around too much, or touching their face. this kid sounds sincere. and the parents' reaction really startled me because they reacted in a way like uh-oh. and that made me think that that boy had revealed something he wasn't supposed to share. >> okay. >> and the father is so outraged, mike. what was he doing this morning? right back on the morning shows again. >> yeah. poor falcon gets sick on national tv like that. as an investigator, we've obviously got a difference of opinion from folks out th

. >> getting asked repeatedly because of this comment by wolf blitzer last night. >> because of the show. >> getting a lot of attention but for different reasons. >> i'm about to vomit. >> another hot topic, the family's home video of the balloon taking off. it doesn't appear anyone realizes falcon is missing or maybe inside the balloon as was initially thought. but this extended home video obtained by "inside edition" appears to tell a different tale. >> he's in there! >> where? >> until the ship! >> he was just here. >> the craft came loose at 11:00 a a.m. local time. at 11:22, mrs. heene called 911. >> he's been missing for about 20 minutes? >> yeah. >> 911 was the third call the family made. >> the first call was to the faa and that the segcond call was made to 9 news with the belief they had a helicopter that might be able to assist and that sometimes afterwards they called 911. >> the faa has opened an investigation into the incident, and child protective services has been called. though the sheriff today says he's asked them not to speak with the family until authorities have had

. >> getting asked this comment to wolf blitzer last night. >> we did this for a show. >> reporter: also getting a lot of attention but for a different reason. >> i feel like i'm going vomit. >> that's what he was referring to. >> caller: the other hot topic, the family's home video. >> get the tether. >> reporter: it doesn't appear that anyone realizes he's missing or inside the balloon. but this video appears to tell a different tale. >> i'm going to sneak inside. >> dad falcon's in there. >> where. >> in the ship. >> he was just here. >> no, he's in there. >> reporter: it came loose around 11:00. and then she called 911. >> they've both been missing for 20 minutes? mm-hmm. >> reporter: 911 was the third call the family made. >> the first call was made to faa and the second call was made to 9 news with the belief they had a helicopter that might be able to assist and then afterwards they called 911. >> reporter: the faa has opened the incident. the sheriff's asked them not to speak with family until authorities have a chance to speak with the heenes again. why do they want to talk to t

people became really skeptical when cnn's wolf blitzer asked falcon why he hid during the search and he answered, we did this for show. >>> the university of connecticut is mourning the death of one of their star football players. 20-year-old jasper howard was killed in an on-campuses stabbing just hours after yesterday's game. howard was stabbed during a fight after the team's victory over louisville and police are now still looking for the perpetrator. howard was a junior and starting carnerback from miami. he led the big east in punt returns last season. michael hogan calls this stabbing a tragedy for the entire university. >>> a third person died after taking part in a sweat lodge ceremony in arizona. ten days ago she was among more than 50 people inside a sweat lodge during a retreat led by self-help guru arthur ray. they have not filed charges yet. ray says he hired his own team to investigate what went wrong. his spokesman says ray's team is cooperating with police. >>> two weeks after the fact, investigators are still not sure about the sequence of events that ended with the

>> reporter: well, you know, there was that interview last thursday on "larry king live," wolf blitzer was hosting, and there was that question by the father, richard heene, to his son, said hey, when you were up in the attic did you hear us calling your name? and the boy says yeah. and he says why didn't you come snout and he says, well, we did it for the show. well, everybody saw that. and it immediately raised suspicions, both on the part of lane forcement, everybody who of course was watching this. so authorities grew suspicious. they wanted to question the heenes. and they also put up a public front supporting the heenes, and they said they did that because they wanted to continue to have their trust. so over the weekend they brought in the heenes for questioning. they brought richard in to the sheriff's station. they administered -- apparently administered a polygraph at that time. and then investigators came to the house, did another line of questioning. and we don't know if there was a confession or whatever was said, but we we know is after those interviews took place authorit

before the family's interview with wolf blitzer, wolf introduced himself. >> say hi to wolf. his name is wolf. >> hi. >> hi. >> who the hell -- >> falcon made faces, took his dad's phone, and slapped his brother. the kids also get the silver saucer for best hygiene. the silver saucer award for best balloon cameo goes to "saturday night live." >> it was a hoax. >> yeah, we know. >> the silver saucer for most genuine moment goes to falcon's brother for their reaction when he through up on national tv. dad looks like he almost lost it. the silver saucer award, you can eat it after receiving it. >> just don't make yourself sick. >> not enough room in there. >> who the hell is wolf? sfwloom that was cnn's jeanne moos. while i think this thing is by far the most bizarre story, it's also one of the most serious. brooke, we have other family drama to talk about, because we always have the gosselins, after all. show biz on call phone lines continue to ring. a lot of people calling in about whether it's ever okay for kids to be on reality tv. she says kate gosselin is clueless. >> i ju

before the family's interview with wolf blitzer, wolf introduced himself. >> say hi to wolf. >> hi. >the hell is wolf? >> during the interview falcon made faces, took his dad's phone and slapped his brother. but the kids also get the silver saucer for best high again when sneezing. the silver saucer award for best balloon cameo goes to "saturday night live." >> by, balloon. >> it was a hoax. >> yeah, we know. >> the silver saucer for most genuine moment goes to falcon's brothers for their reaction when he threw up on national tv. >> dad looked like he almost lost it. >> at least with the silver saucer award you can eat it after receiving it. just don't make yourself sick. >> i feel like i'm going to vomit. >> who the hell is wolf? >> while i think the whole balloon boy thing is by far the most bizarre story we've seen in a long time, it's the most serious. the incident is investigated by the faa. charges against the parents could be filed in the coming week. brooke, we have other family drama to talk about, because we always have the gosselins after all. >> true. >> a lot of people ca

wolf blitzer was hosting. there was that question by the father, richard heene, to his son saying hey when you were up in the attic, did you hear us calling your name? the boy says yeah. they said, why didn't you come out? he says, well we did it for the show. well, everybody saw that. and it immediately raised suspicions both on the part of law enforcement, everybody of course, who was watching this. authorities grew suspicious they wanted to question the heenes, and said they wanted to continue to have their trust. over the weekend, they brought in the heenes for questioning. they brought richard in to the sheriff's station. they administered -- apparently administered a polygraph at that time. and investigators came to the house, did another line of questioning. and we don't know if there was a confession or whatever was said, but all we know is after those interviews took place, authorities came out and said it was a hoax. >> let's take a listen to what happened on national tv. >> did you hear us calling y

tell your children to lie to the authorities, to tell your children to die to meredith vieira and wolf blitzer, but i also think it's a very big deal in the country to take children away from their parents, and based on what i have seen this does not rise to that level. >> heene supposedly took two weeks to put the plan together. they should be charged sometime next week. >>> regulators say more than 100 american banks failed this year. regulators announced seven new bank closures yesterday, including a bank in naples, p . florida. that is more than four times the number that closed last year, and the highest tally since 1992. yesterday's bank shutdowns are expected to cost the federal department insurance fund more than $356 million. >>> we are getting reports of two missiles that hit a village in afghanistan killing 16 people. it's not clear if the people were militants are civilians. a militant hideout was hit and the u.s. does not comment on the suspected drone attacks that causes friction with pakistan. >>> a proposed bill to fight global warming would cost you about $100 more a year. tha

i know a lot of you became suspicious when little falcon talked to wolf blitzer hours after this played out. this was the key to uncovering this thing. watch what he says and watch the reaction of dad, mom and his little brothers. >> falcon, did you hear us calling your name at any time? >> uh-huh. >> you did? >> you did. >> why didn't you come out. >> you guys said that we did this for the show. >> yeah. >> no. >> oh, dad, coming with a yeah. mom coming with a no. imagine what they were thinking at that point. that is the innocence of a 6-year-old telling what many believe is the truth. this was a sick stunt for publicity to pitch some reality show. love to hear from you on this one. 1-877-tell-hln. joining me to talk about it, hln law enforcement analyst mike brooks, cooper lawrence, psychologist author of "the cult of celebrity" and attorney eric richman. mike, your take there. did you see the cues right then all over the place. not only what he said, the show, what show, but the way everyone acted. >> all the nonverbals. you look at the other two boys. when wolf talked to the father

>> reporter: you know, there was that interview last thursday on "larry king live, can "wolf blitzeras hosting and there was that question by the father, richard heene, to his son. said, hey, when you were up in the attic did you hear i calling your name? the boy says, yeah. he says, why didn't you come out? he says, well, we did it for the show. everybody saw that and it immediately raised suspicions on the part of law enforcement, everybody who, of course, was watching this. authorities grew suspicious. they wanted to question the heenes. they also put up a public front supporting the heenes and did that because they wanted to continue to have their trust. over the weekend, they brought in the heenes for question. they brought richard into the sheriff's station. they administered a polygraph at that time. then investigators came to the house, did another line of questioning and we don't know if there was confession or whatever was said. all we know is after those interviews took place, authorities came out and said it was a hoax. >> let's take a listen to what happened on national

this is what he told wolf blitzer on "the situation room." >> i was a d.a. in malibu the last couple of years in the office. the film crew said they were from france and making this documentary and they're going to try to sell it over there. i was under the impression it would never be shown in the united states. i made these comments just to liven it up a little. it was a bad thing to do in retrospect. i never knew it would be shown in the united states until someone called and told me it was on tv. >> so you heard from david wells again, the former prosecutor. what about the documentary director? she's astonished that he changed his story. you can read more about the story, see the entire interview on our website. >> he thought because its with a french crew it would never be seen in the u.s. appreciate it. >>> an exciting addition to our prime time lineup. joy behar airs every night. last night she chatted with comedian jeffrey ross about his new book. >> it took sarah palin four months to write her book. how long did it take you? >> it took me a year. in

falcon heene on with wolf blitzer. well, the whole family's on, but falcon tips us off it's all for a show, a possible reality show. here he is, falcon heene talking to wolf blitzer. >> falcon, did you hear us calling your name at any time? >> mm-hmm. >> you did? >> you did? >> why didn't you come out? >> you guys said that we did this for the show. >> yeah. >> no. >> what are you seeing there, stacy, as far as the reaction. what got me was the little brothers, how they're looking back and forth in this timid way. what's going on, you think, there? >> i think the kids were set up to be afraid of saying the wrong thing. and yet, it's that funny thing, kids are horrible liars. so it doesn't surprise me that falcon could not stick with the story. >> yeah. the little guy came with the truth. and it didn't take long, not even 24 hours after this whole charade went off, there little falcon is, telling us what the real motive was. and thank goodness for the truth, huh? we'll get a quick break. we'll take your calls on this, 1

well, let's -- stacy, i'd like to listen to falcon again with wolf blitzer last night.have you listened to it as well? just see as we watch it and listen again what you might pick up on to tell you i'm guessing you're thinking hoax here but let's watch that again, falcon last night talking with wolf blitzer on "larry king live." >> falcon did you hear us calling your name at any time? >> mm-hmm. >> you did? >> you did? >> why didn't you come out? >> um you guys said that we did this for the show. >> yeah -- >> no. >> okay, stacy. you see momg in there, the two brothers look both ways at the parents. what's your read? >> i had a couple reactions. first of all the boy sounds completely honest and sincere when he comes out with that. kids are not good liars. they usually reveal it by moving around too much or touching their face. this kid sounds sincere. and the parents' reaction really startled me because they reacted in a way like uh-oh. and that made me think that that boy had revealed something he wasn't supposed to share. >> okay. >> and the father is so outraged, mik

this is from "larry king live" wolf blitzer was doing the questioning. heene wants to say, why did you ask these questions after he was just trying to ask follow up questions. i want to bring in our psychologist susan. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, you look at these two parents. you know, you look up the word narcissist and you will see richard heene's picture in the dictionary. what effect is it going to have on the kids down the road? >> it seems the parenting is disturbing. in one event, the balloon event is something we will all remember as a hoax. all the pictures starting from when he was an infant and the youtube songs they were singing, it indicates there's very, very poor judgment. i'm glad cps is going in to investigate. the whole thing smells. it's scary. i hope it send as message to everyone else not to treat their children like this. >> look how long it's been going on. we saw the video of little bradford, bark like a dog. people take home video. i don't want to say, oh, i'm not a purist. but, you know, he's

this is falcon last night talking with wolf blitzer on "larry king live." let's listen. >> falcon, did you hear us calling your name at any time? >> mm-hmm. >> you did? >> you did? >> why didn't you come out? >> um i said that we did this for a show. >> man. >> no. >> stacey you see that. you see mom in there the two brothers kind of look both ways at the parents. what's your read on that? >> first of all, the boy sounds completely honest and sincere when he comes out with that. kids are not good liars. they usually reveal it by moving around too much or touching their face. this kid sounds sincere. and the parents' reaction really startled me, because they reacted in a way like, uh-oh. that made me think that boy had revealed something he wasn't supposed to share. >> the father is so outraged, mike, that -- what was he doing this morning? right back on the morning shows again. you know? the boy got sick. >> got sick on national tv like that. mike, as an investigator, we've obviously got a difference of opinion for folks out there. how do you investigate th

think it's bad thing to tell your children to lie to authorities and lie to meredith vieira and wolf blitzerbe discouraged. but it's a big deal in this country to take children away from their parent ms. based on what i've seen, it's not the case here. >> 100 american banks have failed this year. regulators announced several new closures yesterday including a bank in naples florida. that brought the total to 106 banks. that's four times the number that closed last year. and the highest tally since 1992. yesterday's bank shutdowns are expected to cost the federal deposit insurance fund more than $356 million. they're all regional banks that did not receive hell from the federal government. >>> a proposed bill to fight global warming would cost you about $100 more a year. that's what the environmental protection agency is saying. it looked to how much the bill would bump up the average home's energy bill. some studies said the increase could be as much as $3,000. the bill is promoting energy not made from fos sit fuels to cut green house gases. senate hearings on the bills could begin next wee

tell your children to lie to the authorities to tell your children to lie to meredith veiera and wolf blitzerig deal to take children away from their parents. based on what i've seen this does not rise to that level. >> the hennes supposedly took about two weeks to put the plan together. they could be charged sometime next week. >>> a grieving florida community is not forgetting the little girl whose body was found in a georgia land fill. neighbors held another vigil last night. they sang her favorite son "you are my sunshine." she had been missing since monday. police have not made any arrests yet but they ruled out all 161 sex offenders who live within five miles of the little girl's suburban jacksonville home. investors are not revealing how she died. >>> a strong mid ocean earthquake hit near indonesia, centered 86 miles below the ocean floor. there was a preliminary magnitude of 7.0. the nearest land is about 140 miles, an island to the south. no tsunami warning was issued. indonesia has been rocked by a series of strong quakes including a powerful quake that killed more than 1,000 peopl

there is a new zinger from the now well-known cnn interview done with wolf blitzer, right? this part was not seen on air. it happened before the interview, the cameras were rolling, wolf was introducing himself to the family. listen to the little foul-mouthed falcon. >> say hi to wolf. >> hi. who the hell is wolf? >> apparently that is pretty mild, i guess, because what the boys say on youtube and what else, "wife swap" -- >> yeah, it's not good. wolf put a hex on him, though. i don't know if you saw the today show interview, he said, next time we're on an interview, you're going to puke. next time you're on tv, you're going to puke. >> wolf is on the phone. >> i'd be happy to do his show. he's a nice man. >> bob, the weather. >> this weather brought to you by ups. what's going on across the region? we have a wave of low pressure to week one. it's enough to generate some light clouds across the northwest. most of the rain is up towards the north. minneapolis, some showers here stretches into northern minnesota. also notice more showers coming in across south dakota. another

this is from "larry king live" wolf blitzer was doing the questioning.ay, why did you ask these questions after he was just trying to ask follow up questions. i want to bring in our psychologist susan. joining us from new york. she's a psychologist. thanks for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> you know, you look at these two parents. you know, you look up the word narcissist and you will see richard heene's picture in the dictionary. what effect is it going to have on the kids down the road? >> it seems the parenting is disturbing. this one event, the balloon event is something we will all remember as a hoax. all the pictures starting from when he was an infant and the youtube songs they were singing, it indicates there's very, very poor judgment. i'm glad cps is going in to investigate. the whole thing smells. it's scary. i hope it sends a mezage to everyone else not to treat their children like this. >> look how long it's been going on. we saw the video of little bradford, bark like a dog. with a beer bottle and cigar. people take home video.

when wolf blitzer asked what falcon meant by that, his dad said he was appalled by the question and thaton was probably talking about all the media coverage. you're covering another explanation that came out this morning from the father. authorities say they want to talk with the family again. t one sheriff also said seasoned investigators who spoke with the family felt that this was not a hoax and this was the real deal because they were trained and were used to looking for some inconsistencies in such interviews. >> but even after that interview last night, the family is doing more and more and more interviews. it's odd. >> it is. you can't keep up with them. >> all right. well said, richard. thank you. you all continue to talk about this. you've said so much about this balloon story. let's get to the phones right now. ty is calling us from california. ty, what's your take? ty, are you there? >> caller: can you hear me? >> now i can. go for it. >> caller: i saw the same thing you saw. there was no basket. the son said the reason why he came out yesterday, because he was bored and his s

. >> and he doesn't even know who wolf blitzer. >>> we have breaking news today going on with kate gosselin. kate's speaking out in a new interview with "vanity fair".com, fairing back at critics saw say she's exploiting her kids. she says the ones that claim we're exploiting our children are the ones that are actually exploiting our children. she and jon are the ones who signed off on ""jon & kate plus 8" and she's the one off of making money off of putting her kids on tv. >> it's the old, you are, defense. i'm not making any more money about talking about jon and kate on tv. kate, we'll talk about something else tomorrow and the next day. i haven't made a single dime off of talking about your kids. >> and something very interest, the kate revealing that the kids not doing so well since they split up. she says oh -- why the kids are acting out. they don't see it but it's all interconnected. i imagine they say the same thing when i'm away. dr. michelle, that's no surprise, is it? >> they don't need grace, they need therapy. i mean, they don't need grace, kate. they need therapy. you need to

we remember when the son was supposedly in the balloon told wolf blitzer the whole thing was just for show. watch how painful it was for heene to squirm out of this one. take a look. >> you want to ask him now. i don't know if you can hear me. he said we did this for the show. you want to ask falcon? >> falcon, they want to know why you were in the attic for so long and why you said -- say it again. >> it looks like he didn't want to ask the question. he was uncomfortable. a lot of people at that moment when we thought it was for real felt sorry for this guy. do you now a little bit? >> i don't know if sorry is the right word. i think he got in way over his head. i think hollywood create this is climate and the more outrageous you can be, the more you can get a reality show. the buck stops with richard heene and he makes the decisions and he's the father and it falls on him. if there is executives saying do something outrageous and maybe we can get you on a television show, he is playing with the world of entertainment that it's something he got a taste with with wife swap. i don't th

i've seen her many times with wolf blitzer. she's no democrat. designer karl lagerfeld likes girls skinny. no one wants to see round women. he said in reaction to a magazine announcing they would use realistic women rather than skinny models. these are fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television saying that thin models are ugly. is this guy? what does he make of a statement like that? >> was he a large person? >> he's fat. a self-hating fat person. he was fat and now he's skinny and he hates fat. and he despises the fat in himself. that's my psychological evaluation of this. how does he know what women want, leslie? >> women want to see skinny women. no you don't. >> a time, certain couture designers, they do beautiful dresses. in modern day, women want clothes that are comfortable, feminine. body image is so important because we have an impact on the daughters. the mother going through the same experience, it has an effect on tweens and teenagers. it's critical now. >> i want to see designers do things that protect u

i've seen her many times with wolf blitzer. she's no democrat. designer karl lagerfeld likes girls skinny. no one wants to see round women. he said in reaction to a magazine announcing they would use realistic women rather than skinny models. these are fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television saying that thin models are ugly. is this guy? what does he make of a statement like that? >> was he a large person? >> he's fat. a self-hating fat person. he was fat and now he's skinny and he hates fat. and he despises the fat in himself. that's my psychological evaluation of this. how does he know what women want, leslie? >> women want to see skinny women. no you don't. >> a time, certain couture designers, they do beautiful dresses. in modern day, women want clothes that are comfortable, feminine. body image is so important because we have an impact on the daughters. the mother going through the same experience, it has an effect on tweens and teenagers. it's critical now. >> i want to see designers do things that protect u

. >> and he doesn't even know who wolf blitzer is. >>> we have breaking news today going on with kate gosselin. kate's speaking out in a new interview with "vanity fair.com firing back at critics who say she's exploiting her kids. she says the ones that claim we're exploiting our children are the ones that are actually exploiting our children. she and jon are the ones who signed off on ""jon & kate plus 8" and she's the one making money off of putting her kids on tv. >> it's the old, you are, defense. i'm not making any more money about talking about jon and kate on tv. kate, we'll talk about something else tomorrow and the next day. i haven't made a single dime off of talking about your kids. so no, i am not exploiting your kids whatsoever. >> and something very interesting, kate revealing that the kids not doing so well since they split up. she says oh -- why the kids are acting out. they don't see it but it's all interconnected. i imagine they say the same thing when i'm away. dr. michelle, that's no surprise, is it? >> they don't need grace, they need therapy. i mean, they don't n

we all remember when their son who was supposedly in that balloon, told cnn's own wolf blitzer the whole thing was just for a show. watch how painful it was for heene to kind of squirm his way out of this one. take a look. >> you want to ask him now? i don't know if he can hear me what he meant by what he said, we did this for the show? you want to ask falcon? >> falcon they want to know they want to know why you were in the attic? okay, for so long? and why you -- say it again? >> now, watching it again, of course, it looks like he didn't want to ask that question. he was clearly very uncomfortable there. hyla, a lot of people at that moment when we all thought this was for real actually felt sorry for this guy. do you now just a little bit, maybe? >> i don't know if sorry's the right word. i think he got in way over his head and i think hollywood creates this climate. the more outrageous you can be the better chance you can get a reality show. again, the buck stops with richard heene. he's the one that makes the decision, he's the father. it all falls on him. but if there's executives

. >> we did see wolf blitzer ask that question that got the answer that really got the ball rolling andla, wendy murphy, thanks, guys appreciate it. >>> we've been asking you to sound off on our "showbiz tonight" question of the day. alleged balloon boy hoax. is it ever okay to put kids in reality shows? you know how i feel about this. you can vote at cnn.com/showbiztonight or e-mail us at showbiztonight@cnn.com. >>> all right, let's move on. you know so many people love to throw around that word "cougar" to describe people like madonna and de and demi moore and courteney cox. courteney even has a new show called "cougar town." courteney is 47 and looks great, but is that term "cougar" just offensive? is it time for it to go? the great cougar debate next. >>> hey have you seen marge simpson and her "playboy" spread? for work purposes i did have to take a look at this and i've got to say a lot of people very fired up. is an animated mom cartoon posing naked totally wrong or really no big deal? >>> and whitney houston almost ended up naked with a good old fashioned 2004 super bowl style w

no big surprise that a 6-year-old could have uttered the truth with wolf blitzer. remember that interview? did it for the show. we'll hash all this out for you. get the latest on that investigation. talk about the charges that the heene family could face. we'll also talk about family dynamics. how damaging could it be for three little boys who look up to a father to be this kind of hoax. you're teaching them to lie if all this is true. want to hear from you, 1-877-tell-hln. also continue to follow this story, a third death in the sweat lodge tragedy. three people have now died. james ray, self-help guru. is he responsible? what things are investigators looking at? they're ruling these deaths a homicide. you have to look how it was constructed. was there or should there have been medical personnel on hand. more than one nurse for 55 to 60 people? taking your calls on that. >>> also this, i'll give you the headline and want to hear from you. convicted murderers and rapists released early in north carolina. i mean, it's just infuriating just to hear that, brooke, when