institute. elizabeth, we heard some of the interview in the last hour, tell us what he is saying now about the latest, very, very disturbing trends. >> wolf, iave known dr. fauci for many, many years, he has dedicated himself to getting rid of outbreaks. and so, i asked him how disturbing is it now for you to see six months in, the surges in cases? >> well, you know, it's a good question, and i like the way you framed it, elizabeth. we live in such a heterogenious country, it's so different. so that it's almost unfair because if you give the country a grade you are neglecting the areas that it well. that listened and shut down and are opening up with care. there are others that actually did not listen. or they jumped over these guide posts that we have had. others got hit badly like the metropolitan area, and are doing very well now. and i mean, if you look at what is happening in the new york metropolitan area. you know, they are doing it really well. they are slowing down. they are watching what is happening as they go from one phase to another. and when they see things that might endanger the flow and maybe precipitate an outbreak, they c