again, without even being mean to michael wolff although there are issues with michael wolff. bob woodward is the gold standard. right? and i think there is -- >> and bob woodward has been in this crossfire before. >> many times before. and look, he's got -- again, you said i'm familiar with it. i am. there's a really very high premium. if you're going to do a book on deep background where you're going to say i'm going to quotem verbatim from meetings, from notes, from people's recollections, the pressure it puts on the reporter is that you are never going to be able to do what donald trump is trying to play the game with bob woodward about. who told you that? woodward has said with these people he will never say i got this directly from jim mattis, from john kelly. the likelihood is he spoke to all of them. but he will never come out -- the reality is in many of these situations he's going to have that same quote knowing how bob works, he's going to have it from the speaker, from the person who heard, it from the people that -- other people in the room, other people they told

saga. >> right, after the michael wolff book came out that had sensational details but michael wolff was spotted in the west wing on several occasions, he quoted several senior officials including bannon so that that book we were told chief of staff john kelly said no more interviews of that nation for more upcoming books. there are several officials, at least a dozen current and former who confirmed they spoke to bob woodward for his book. some were before that rule, some were after. and an official disputed that saying there wasn't a ban on the interviews but it's in a more organized basis going forward after the fallout from the wolf book. but poppy, the bottom line is what i've heard from bepeople w have read fragments, no one has read all of it, is that they are stunned about the level of detail bob woodward has about what is going on inside the white house. that is creating the sense of anxiety and that president trump is irritated he never had a chance to sit down and tell his side of the story. >> the book comes out in a week. see you when we read it. we are minutes away for

it's already being sort of disavowed by some of the sources behind it in the same way that michael wolff was and we end up with another fire and fury remake here then we're all going to be real disappointed when it's whenever we're done talking about it right. have you read it. i have not read the book and the reason i haven't read it larry is because it's not telling us anything that we don't already know about the trump white house let's think about it larry what is bob woodward telling us in this book that amorosa didn't tell us in her book what it all rossa tell us in her book that fire and fury didn't tell us in that book what did fire and fury tell us that people like rex tillerson john kelly jim madison mean all of these people time and time and time again whether it's administration insiders whether it's a journalist whether it's a writer each and every one of these people are senator in tennessee bob corker they all indicate that this is a white house that's in total disarray and that trump is incompetent and he's not up for the job now is every single one of these people lying

. >> i read this wolff and we will talk about it. >> author michael wolff. >> michael wolff. >> michaelolff.et >> the stormy saga takes a dramatic turn. >> stormy daniels. >> stormy daniels. >> stormy daniels. >> stormy daniels. >> stormy daniels. >> he said, she said. >> omarosa. >> omarosa. >> omarosa. >> omarosa. >> is in itself an impeachable offense? >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> impeachment. >> sean: they are all sheep. they are like drug addicts, i mean it. every day they need to wake up. hating trump about something and they are also sheep. they all echo each other, it's an echo chamber. i have to be honest, it's a sick obsession. where do they ever talk about the success of the president? gregg jarrett has had the number one selling book in the country, we've exposed, and we are number one in cable. thanks to all of you, we don't ever take that for granted. we will have more on the media, and brand-new by the wayl anti-trump op-ed. but first we have to cover a new story surrounding bruce ohr.ed pay o close att

obviously the most explosive book we've seen so far was from michael wolff.ttention over the course of several weeks. there were certain claims in that book picked apart and found to be not true, they were denied strongly by the people participating. i think it's more difficult to deny those reports when you've got someone like bob woodward who has written these kind of books about the past eight presidential administrations. this book carries more weight than we've seen in the past. by the looks of it, it includesjust as past. by the looks of it, it includes just as salacious details as we saw in the michael wolff bit, but more substantiated. that's the background and why people are going to pay the book a lot of attention. let's get into some of the specifics, particularlyjohn let's get into some of the specifics, particularly john kelly. we played one of the greats from the book. how long can he stay in his job after this? well, we've all been waiting for him to come to an end in the white house for a long time. there have been moments over the course of h

you say -- you said five books, i will go with we had the michael wolff, omarosa, various reports, now you have woodward and the anonymous op-ed. you say it's a few people. that's a lot of -- are you saying a few people are the source for all of these faults? that's a lot of people. >> -- somebody who above board met with bob woodward to figure out what the book was about or how i might help and came back and took that to the white house as we all know. >> did you stop the president from speaking to bob woodward. >> i did not. >> he seems to think there was a disagreement in that recording. he seems to at least indicate he wanted to speak with bob woodward. >> and he said this week it wouldn't have helped. >> but he did want to speak to him. >> the president likes to speak to everyone. >> did you just not bring the request. >> no, i'm on tape saying exactly what is true, which is i brought the request back and it was rejected. >> to the president? to the president? >> i also -- >> to the president? you're not answering whether you brought the request to the president. >> i didn't bring

lap during qualification and was on course for victory in the main event but the slavish chief toto wolff ordered him to allow hamilton's a pass that extended the british championship lead over sebastian vettel a person into the fins hopes of glory post-race a visibly disappointed but us was comforted by a triumphant hamilton who admits it is a victory of the season owed everything to his team mates sacrifice. yeah i mean about you did a fantastic job all weekend and it was a real gentleman to have to let me biopsy is now in the fighting for the championship is where we usually will be just elated but you know i can understand how difficult it was about three but really it is untested till today ended up two two to win a couple times lead over for a respectable now stands at fifty points with just five races remaining and almost out of sight of the lead. champagne in the grounds of a sadie's thanks to both houses team spirit. show. the news now for the highlights from sunday's blunder see the action including goals with ten goals scored in just two matches it was a busy day in germany's t

and following on from michael wolff, trust me, there is more than a grain of truth in it. —— king's menk in the grand old age. you are not retiring soon, are you? though, of course not. japan has got a very strange work culture, having worked there for a number of years. this is inevitable, it is going to happen all over the world. interest rates are very low in most of the world's developed economies, you can't afford to sustain people. the japanese have a very strange culture, they look after people. for instance, if you lost yourjob, the whole street would look after you to make sure that you got sorted until you got thejob. anybody make sure that you got sorted until you got the job. anybody who tells you got the job. anybody who tells you that in japan, you got the job. anybody who tells you that injapan, people work harder than anyone else, don't believe it. the white collar workers, they just stay there longer than anyone else. thank you for joining us. have a lovely day and we will see you soon. bye—bye. hello again. well, if you're heading outside over the next few hours in eng

lecturing qualification and was on course for victory in the main event but the savings chief toto wolff ordered him to allow hamilton to pass that extended the bridge championship lead over sebastian vettel a president of the fins hopes of glory post-race a visibly disappointed but us was comforted by a triumphant hamilton who admits it is a victory of the season owed everything to his team mates sacrifice. yeah i mean that's you did a fantastic job all weekend and it was a real gentleman too to let me buy a seat is now not fighting for the championship is where we are usually you would be just elated but you know i can understand how difficult it was about three but really you define testator today it is up to two to win a couple times lead over for a respectable now stands at fifty points with just five races remaining and almost out of sight of the lead. champagne all round from a sadie's thanks to both touches team spirit. engulfed team europe have reclaimed the ryder cup off to completing a resoundingly victory over the usa sunday's play europe held off an early fight back by the u

a couple of years later, barbara married again, michael wolff, an ex-military man like her dad, abouthe same age as her dad, too. >> your dad and your new husband probably saw eye-to-eye a lot. >> they sure did. they had a lot in common. they would talk a lot. >> wolff took barbara and john to live with him in arizona, but david wanted to be a part of his son's life, so he traveled out west to see the boy. >> he went up there with a friend of his and they saw johnny for three days. i got pictures of johnny in like the old western town and everything. >> and maybe it was something about the distance, said barbara. >> david and i became very good friends when i was out in arizona and we used to talk a lot. >> in fact, what she felt deep in her heart never did go away. >> i'll always love david. >> and then, it was june 25th, 1988, david's brother, mark, was flying into town to visit the family. david was to pick him up at the airport. but when mark arrived, he waited and waited. no david. and mark jackson had a terrible feeling. >> no matter what, he'd have been there for me. i knew som

unnamed sources and michael wolff's book.hings that turned out to be false, what cnn published about an unnamed source. all of it is a slow rolling attempt to undermine a duly elected president. meanwhile, anonymous says the president is anti-democratic. and anonymous is supposed to be the president now? i don't get that and i think he pointed that out. impeach what? the 4.2% gdp? we're going to impeach that? >> anonymous also said that president trump is making the country safer and more prosperous. now on the impeachment thing we do see democratic leaders trying to walk on egg shells on this that they focused focus group at this and talked about holding president trump accountable with a lot of hearings and things like that. but the base does appear to want impeachment. we had a number of polls where 70 or 80% of self identified democrats say they want to see president trump impeached. democratic leaders will not be able to ignore that. >> laura: i respect maxine waters for at least saying what she really thinks. if that's

i think that unlike michael wolff's book where they were able to try and discredit some portions of ithere you have woodward saying that he has actual recordings and receipts. its worth noting, it also underscores that people are just at the whims of an impulsive president. the president of the united states is the problem himself. >> if the situation is actually as dire as described in these books, why aren't these officials not out in public? >> the answer is today. the answer is today. for all of this erratic behavior and volatile behavior, the president and this administration has been systematically moving policy to the right across an entire range of issues symbolized today by a fifth conservative supreme court that could cement the majority for the next 15 years or so and that ultimately this is the bargain that so many in the republican party are making. they have these concerns privately about what the president is doing but he won and its giving them the power to do what they want and they're biting their lip even if they know better. >> the president says nobody told me. i d

a couple of years later, barbara married again, michael wolff, an ex-military man like her dad, abouthe same age as her dad, too. >> your dad and your new husband probably saw eye-to-eye a lot. >> they sure did. they had a lot in common. they would talk a lot. >> wolff took barbara and john to live with him in arizona, but david wanted to be a part of his son's life, so he traveled out west to see the boy. >> he went up there with a friend of his and they saw johnny for three days. i got pictures of johnny in like the old western town and everything. >> and maybe it was something about the distance, said barb a barbara. >> david and i became very good friends when i was out in arizona and we used to talk a lot. >> in fact, what she felt deep in her heart never did go away. >> i'll always love david. >> and then, it was june 25th, 1988, david's brother, mark, was flying into town to visit the family. david was to pick him up at the airport. but when mark arrived, he waited and waited. no david. and mark jackson had a terrible feeling. >> no matter what, he'd have been there for me. i k

after books we had the bob woodward book with the stormy daniels we had amorosa we had the michael wolff book we've got this we've got people now claiming and the latest let me add is elizabeth warren the senator who is suggesting that the president is insane and could be removed via the twenty fifth amendment they are throwing everything including the kitchen sink everything at him hoping somewhere something sticks and so far nothing it doesn't matter this is all within the fake corporate media world where they believe we're having a tremendous effect people are listening the new york times. twitter and facebook bosses apologized on wednesday for being too slow to spot alleged russian meddling in the twenty sixteen u.s. presidential election the social media giants were testifying at a senate hearing on foreign influence the founder said i was unprepared and do equipped for the immensity of the problems that we've acknowledged we were too slow to spot this and too slow to act. that is on us you know and to be to be frank we haven't done a good job at this in the past and so this is a bi

it's a redo of michael wolff's book. very similar themes. the president is crazy. the president says nasty things about people. >> but doesn't the commonality breed credibility that these are things i've heard almost without exception. i've heard many times. >> i think if you repeat a lie long enough -- >> no, but i've -- look, as you all know we're part of a pretty small community here of people who actually have understanding of sourcing, of what's going on inside the white house. i am surprised by very little that's in the book. he's documented it very well. i haven't gotten to read all of it yet obviously. he's got lots of hours of things that have been recorded. do you want to get in a fact fight with bob woodward? >> i would say, look, there's 28 reporters covering the president from "the washington post." bob woodward's home newspaper, and yet they never seem to report any of this on a daily basis, a weekly basis, a monthly basis. don't you think the timing of this is very suspicious, chris? >> no. you tell me why it is. >> the president and the republicans

after books we had the bob woodward book with the stormy daniels we had on our rosa we had the michael wolff book we've got this we've got people now claiming and the latest let me add is elizabeth warren the senator who is suggesting that the president is insane and could be removed via the twenty fifth amendment they are throwing everything including the kitchen sink everything at him hoping somewhere something sticks and so far nothing it doesn't matter this is all within the fake corporate media world where they believe we're having a tremendous effect people are listening the new york times. and more great programs right ahead and then i'm back out the top of the hour with more of the news that shape the week. what politicians to do something to. put themselves on the line to get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president or injury. or somehow want to. have to go right to be cross the saliva before three in the morning can't be good. i'm interested always in the waters of our. last question. so we've got to do is identify the threats that we have it's crazy confrontation let

after books we had the bob woodward book with the stormy daniels we had our rosa we had the michael wolff book we've got this we've got people now claiming and the latest let me add is elizabeth warren the senator who is suggesting that the president didn't say formants of the s.p.d. to the immigration party the a.f.d. last september when the f.d.a. got record results getting into parliament for the very first time the election was a bit of a damp squib for the s.p.d. who lost forty seats so the oath is treated this as a bitter lesson. for me progressive and feminist viewpoint it seems impossible that a woman in germany would vote if d. and yet it happens conservative branches very concerned has a very traditional to women in my view women in the traditional views can have many roles even the study title the triumph over women question mark could be seen as a warning in itself as it appears to allude to the title of a nazi party propaganda film in titled the triumph of the will which cry. nicol the nine hundred thirty four congress of the nazi party yet both the women that we spoke to fel

after books we had the bob woodward book with the stormy daniels we had amorosa we had the michael wolff book we've got this we've got people now claiming and the latest let me add is elizabeth warren the senator who is suggesting that the president is insane and could be removed via the twenty fifth amendment they are throwing everything including the kitchen sink everything at him hoping somewhere something sticks and so far nothing it doesn't matter this is all within the fake corporate media world where they believe we're having a tremendous effect people are listening the new york times. they're just some of the stories that shaped the week around us so it's so much more as it happens on the main site twenty four seventh's on t.v. don't. good moskos kevin always say have a great rest of the week it. will all make just manufacture consent instantly of public wealth. when the ruling classes protect themselves. with the flame of merry go round lifts only the one percent. that's not doing all middle of the room signals. the real news is. my body told me that i belong with the boys but m

who some of the other people are who have made these explosive claims to bob woodward and michael wolffcases they have shipped out some of the leakers who spoke to folks for books and articles but at the same time, some of the stories we keep hearing, keep reoccurring in these books and some of them we know to be current officials who are saying these things. so the white house again might have a difficult time trying to nail down not just the person in the op-ed but looking broadly at the white house and all of the people saying things about the president. neil: you raise a very good point. to that, the notion this story, this kind of story, has come up, nothing to the degree of this where an anonymous top-ranking official we are told says something like this in the "new york times" but it has been a problem for this administration and just keeping loyalty and keeping people from taping conversations. it's been a mess. >> it has been. look, it is an interesting thing. no one is saying that the substance of what this person wrote is untrue, because it jibes too much with things speaker

we talked about michael wolff's book for about a week and then it went a way.for a quy think this will be different for a guy who has released orcs before and will —— has brought down a president already? what is unique about donald trump is that his campaign has been covered with a lot of drama, that it was that initial video with those salacious comments he made in the campaign, to now in the russian investigation, were ever you go, you a lwa ys investigation, were ever you go, you always hear about donald trump. my question about voters is will they be able to discern this book from all the other hundreds and thousands of others, when you add in his tweets, about robbing people the wrong way. that is a factor, not sure about that yet, that is what i am curious to look at. what is more important is how the supreme court is shaped, that affects the us for yea rs is shaped, that affects the us for years to come. definitely. if you look at trump, he had trouble passing legislation but where he got his first win was when he had conservatives on the bench which he

we have a feeling here that we spent a week talking about michael wolff's fire and fury, and then itfrom a journalist who is known for his complaints of research and has helped bring down one president already? yeah, i think it may be a slight factor. what is different about donald trump is that his campaign has been basically covered with a lot of drama. whether it was from the initial video with those salacious comments that he used during the campaign, to now in the russian investigations. anywhere you 90, russian investigations. anywhere you go, you always hearing news about trump. my question is with voters, will they really be able to discern this according to 100 or thousand others. especially when you compare the these tweets, which can some people the wrong way. we do not know yet, but that is what i would be careful about. we do not know what will happen to the supreme court. that will shape the united states for yea rs that will shape the united states for years to come. absolutely, you look at the supreme court, you look at shunt‘s agenda in general, he really had trouble

into bankruptcy, i think the last year you were editing it it lost £16 million, according to michael wolffours. he said you are putting the guardian, because of your disastrous economic model, on a suicide mission. now that you are a few years left, gone from the paper, would you acknowledge that your journalistic career was a success, your economic model for the paper is a total disaster? no, i think totally the opposite. that is a very good example of fake news. guardian has £1 billion in the bank and it is breaking even this year. so, i would argue that we had actually a very long—term strategy and the current people running the paper, who could have put up a paywall, but have decided not to three years after i have gone, have realised this is a good strategy, not a disaster at all. the point about being free is a very important one. the new york times, which is a brilliant paper, is not read by 97% of americans, quite a lot of whom watch fox news or get their news off the internet. and it is a brilliant thing and an important thing which should be celebrated, not knocked, that guardian

ministration and so far i haven't really seen anything that comes out from a press perspective that michael wolff didn't write about beforehand and so from that standpoint i would love to come back on after i finish the whole book and get a full credit but am i concerned about what he talks about yes i'm not concerned about the truth behind it and that's the bigger issue because it's already being sort of disavowed by some of the sources behind it in the same way that michael wolf's was and we end up with another fire and fury remake here then we're all going to be real disappointed when it's whenever we're done talking about it right . have you read it. i have not read the book and the reason i haven't read it larry is because it's not telling us anything that we don't already know about the trump white house let's think about it larry what is bob woodward telling us in this book that amorosa didn't tell us in her book what it all rossa tell us in her book that fire and fury didn't tell us in that book what did fire and fury tell us that people like rex tillerson john kelly jim madison mean all

what facts in the op-ed in the "new york times" took it further than what bob woodward or michael wolff already done >> it confirms all of that >> how does it extend it >> people inside the white house trying to thwart the president and that raises the question of who is in charge here. >> he has 100 hours of tapes within the white house who are saying what this person is saying so what's new? >> the new revelation is that people inside the white house considered the 25th amendment to remove the president of the united states. >> so says this person >> we all learned about the 25th amendment over the last year we heard it mentioned again and again and again and again. which is sort of a little strange that we've been talking about this guy not being legitimate, efforts to remove him from day one from day one >> the other issue is that it must ratchet up the pressure inside the white house on president trump himself, who if he was anxious about feeling let the people -- the people around him trustworthy -- >> what was this person hoping to accomplish? if you're running a conspiracy, you

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you have the michael wolff book. they are all the same story. >> right. >> this guy is not making rational decisions and he is scaring the people in the white house. >> so, dana, i would argue that none of these complaints are new. we know what trump is. brash and asks a lot of questions and a lot are innocently naive because he is not a politician. i think article is turning into he is being managed by his staff as evidence that he is dangerous. i don't see that. >> well, i said yesterday, i think this person should definitely resign. there are a lot of benefits you get from being a senior administration official. that could include the deputy undersecretary in the department of transportation. they don't have a cabinet member saying this. that would be ridiculous. i don't think anybody in his cabinet would be so cowardly to do this. it would be impossible to keep it a secret. the thing about this person. they say they are doing a good job of keeping the country safe from him. this is aggravateing to a president. th

i think woodward has a certain stature a statu statu stature that michael wolff does not, but i think people believe the story even those who support the president. so i don't think that the woodward book itself moves the needle. maybe the wolfe boom and the omarosa book and the woodward book, but not individually. when he said that he could shoot anyone on fifth avenue, i think there was truth in it. >> all right. michael smerconish, thank you so much. >>> coming up next, president trump while aboard air force one today weighed in on whether he would sit down with the special counsel saying that he doesn't want to open himself up to a perjury trap. plus, as former trump aide george papadopoulous finds out hit fate for lying to investigators, that happens this hour as a roger stone associate now faces a grand jury. this is your wake-up call. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis, month after month, the clock is ticking on irreversible joint damage. ongoing pain and stiffness are signs of joint erosion. humira can help stop the clock. prescribed for 15 years, humira targe

at anything to do with uranium oned or email, and if you want to resign and go write a book michael wolff and omarosa left go ahead, but we like you, just do something else but you won't be involved here anymore.ng that would be a lot brighter than firing him. >> laura: do we have an ambassadorship to albania open? i think there are a few positions still open in the administration. thank you so much. what does ann coulter think of the kavanaugh battle and rosenstein? the outspoken commentators here in new york. she will be here to tell us all about it. stay here.po >> nothing ever physical, you never met her, never kissed her never touched her, nothing thatr you remember? >> correct. i never had any sexual or physical activity with dr. ford. i never sexually assaulted anyone, in high school or otherwise. i am not questioning and have not questioned that perhaps dr. ford at some point in her life was sexually assaulted by someone in someplace.d but what i know is i have never sexually assaulted anyone in high school or at any time. >> laura: as we told you thursday is shaping up to be a ve

or even in the michael wolff case, you could say i don't know.is case, this guy's a veteran journalist with one unbelievable track record. what he says is this president is detached from reality. >> greg: i guess my point is he realized "the new york times" dropped this. >> dana: i think it helps him. controversy helps drive books. he's going to be doing a ton of interviews. i'm going to have one with him wednesday on "the daily briefing show." i have learned from the master. >> greg: nice plug. >> dana: thank you. one of the things that helps people, if they have a look out, there's too many books happening. if there's a controversy you are somewhat related to, you will always be asked about it and it keeps you in the top of the headlines. >> greg: judge, what do you think? who do you think wrote it? >> judge jeanine: i think "the new york times" wrote it but what do i know customer problem is if there is a two track system, according to the letter, in the white house, where we are keeping everybody on track. otherwise it would be crazy town, wh

at anything to do with uranium one or email, and if you want to resign and go write a book, michael wolff omarosa left, go ahead, but we like you, just do something else but you won't be involved here anymore. that would be a lot brighter than firing him. >> laura: do we have an ambassadorship to albania open? i think there are a few positions still open in the administration. thank you so much. what does ann coulter think of the kavanaugh battle and rosenstein? the outspoken commentators here in new york. she will be here to tell a set l about it. stay here. medicare cards are changing. with new, more secure numbers. but con artists, they never change. they'll always try to steal your medical identity. so, what can you do? guard your card, just like a credit card. don't give your medicare number over the phone or email. and remember, medicare never calls unless you've asked them to. to find more ways to guard your card, go to medicare.gov/fraud. don't let your guard down. ♪ ♪ >> nothing ever physical, you never met her, never kissed her, never touched her, nothing that you remember? >> c

when michael wolff said these things in his book that people were contemplating the 25th amendment, they all said he was nuts. people said that is probably exaggeration. now they turn out to be right. i just -- i believe enough in the country and in this administration -- not in this administration but i believe enough in this country and in this system that someone who is mentally unfit for office, as well as having all of the other defects that have come out in the course of this russia inquiry, i just can't imagine that it is sustainable for that man to finish. >> i've known you for a long time so that is notable. as i michael wondering whether donald trump wrote it. you need to see a doctor, my friend. i'm going to end this segment with donald j. trump. i'm draining the swamp and the swamp is trying to fight back. don't worry, we will win. we will first thank michael steele and john heilemann. gentlemen, both please come back on future broadcasts. appreciate you being here tonight. >>> coming up, the uproar over today's op-ed comes as his pick for the supreme court fields questions a

you know, this is not a michael wolff book. this is not a book by omarosa.is the eighth president he's written a book about. he gets his facts right and the details are damaging and astonishing and tend to corroborate this notion of resistance inside administration that perceives themselves to be constraining and stopping the president from doing what he wants to do. >> i think you're so right on what you said about the new york times and if you look at the two organizations he criticizes the most are the two that respect him the most. >> absolutely. >> that's cnn and "the new york times." i got to run. quick. >> i think he's also terrified that there is now a source that is feeding "the new york times", the truth about what is going on. >> so much for fake news. >> yes, sir. >> we'll be right back. it's good to... see you again, baron. a toast, to your demise. wanna get away? now you can with southwest fares as low as 69 dollars one-way. that's transfarency. (clap, clap, ding) don't forget that the past can speak to the future. ♪ ♪ i'm going to be your subs

we've seen this book before, it's called michael wolff's "fast and furious" different characters makinge allegations. a lot of those people i think -- gary cohn, for instance, was critical of the president. if he thought like carl bernstein said in your last segment that they were protecting the country from essentially world war iii and the end of civilization, why would he stay another year? the certain hysteria -- >> hang on. gary cohn didn't refute any of the comments in this book, when you say six to eight months, this book covers charlottesville which is eight months plus into the administration. eight months exactly. but this book also -- >> old news -- >> well, the book also covers john kelly who started in july and went on to today so it's not just the first six eight months. >> the book should have come out a year ago but it's coming out today because there's an election -- >> the book is coming out now because it's finished? >> i think bob woodward is a good guy but he's hostage to his sources. he has a history of people that give him information get portrayed well. the presi

michael wolff got a lot more attention and bob woodward actually does research and so he should deserve a lot more attention than that but interesting what you just said about what's going to happen about the person who is pushing against a duly elected president, with the op-ed read to me as is someone who felt that they were serving their country by being in there. >> harris: it better be ending president because they are making decisions on our behalf as the people and they don't even have the integrity to tell us who they are. if >> jessica: i think they should not personally not a fan of the never trumped the ball even as a liberal. it is different when it comes from a republican. we know about partisanship, we know what it's going to be a democrat but when is an never trumped or an old-fashioned neocon for instance he was inside the administration pushing for foreign policy oriented, foreign policy decisions would be getting from mitt romney, from john mccain that you're getting something different from the president, who has a different flavor to it but all of these people, it is

bob woodward book, michael wolff's book, omarosa's book. how does this play into those three narratives? >> it plays into it not because the content was extraordinary or added a lot of new information, but it became another piece of evidence along with these other pieces, especially the woodward piece in reaffirming chaos inside the cows and reaffirming that honestly donald trump could be a lot more effective if everyone around him was really on his side in everything that he is doing. i think that that in itself is pretty extraordinary. i agree with gabriel here, that "the new york times" better hope that this person is a significant person. i would say, you know, one of maybe 30 high-ranking people. otherwise, you know, i'm not sure we should be giving anyone a platform that claim they are part of an internal resistance. i think this this is significant because of who it is. if it's someone like the vice president, like john kelly, a cabinet member, then that's a big deal. if it's someone lower down, i think it's less of a big deal and we

but you see this building from whether it's goofy omarosa or woodward to this, michael wolff, it goes on and on and on. >> there are rumors that john kerry wants to run and lose again for president, that's his right. he can do that. joe biden wants to do the same thing, you saw a lot of the 2020 aspirings trying to embarrass brett kavanaugh, but they really embarrassed themselves and people who are there protesting on their behalf. the one thing i don't see in the woodward book is russia collusion. why is that relevant? he didn't say he was out. the media spent more time on that story, and in other words if you are a journalist who took down richard nixon, if you are deeply respected in many corners in washington, d.c., wouldn't somebody who had evidence of that come to you? wouldn't it leak out? but that's important, because they are going to say why did she talk about that? because when they have nothing to say they move to the next -- >> you did an interview with woodward, right? >> i did, early on when he came to the white house very early on when he got there. and a year and a ha