. >> commissioner wolfram: thank you. i want to clarify for the members of the historic preservation commission. we should be looking at this through a lens that we'll be granted certificates of appropriateness to the kiosks and toilets in historic districts. it's a reasonable question to ask about maintenance and durability, but we need to focus or lens not on personal opinion whether we like or don't like it, but if they can be compatible in the historic districts that they will be placed. that's an important position. i had a couple of questions for the design team. what is determining the height of the toilet structures? it looks like there's quite a lot of space in the top. then the second question, and maybe you said this, but is there any reason that the kiosks can't be round, the advertising kiosks? two questions for the designer at the jcdecaux team. >> this is my opportunity. i've been working on this with bill. the space above the toilets, the true maximum height of these is dictated by transport of them on day

and i agree with commissioner wolfram, with the view from above. if we don't have green roofs, especially on market street, that surface needs to be treated so it doesn't look like a mechanical skylight well. so that would be important. and lastly, keeping it simple, keeping it to a sculptural form. and not mucking it up with amenities around ground floor benches. i think you are complicating the solution. good job. >> commissioner wolfram: thank you. any comments on this side? okay. so -- any comments on this side? >> commissioner johnck: i want to add to the discussion about the standard 9 and the relationship to our mission here and i do think that the design and, of course, our photo here, when i first saw it without thinking about anything else i did like it, i said, this works for our standard 9 interpretation. and being more modern in contrast. so i generally like that approach. i did want to say to echo more about the public interpretation or interactivity of the toilets and the kiosk. i see there is staff from the port here. when we get to

thank you. >> president wolfram: thank. any other members of the public wish to speak on this matter? seeing none -- do we have one more? >> good afternoon. i'm a deacon at third baptist church and we are already challenged with parking there, and my take on this is if this project is going to impact the parking, i think that we should oppose it because it's going to just carry on into other areas. that particular block, if the parking is impacted by this project, it's just going to carry on to where people are blocking other people's garages farther down on fulton and pierce and probably mcallister. recommending you oppose it. >> president wolfram: thank you. any other member of the public wish to comment on this matter? seeing and hearing none, close public comment. commissioners, i just would like to remind you that our role here is to look, to determine whether the project meets the secretary of the interior standards based on the motion. we are not really, this commission does not have a role in determining whether hou

. >> president wolfram: thank you. any other member of the public wish to speak to this matter, if so, please come forward. you'll have 30 -- three minutes with the buzzer at 30 seconds before your time is up. >> thank you, good afternoon. virginia marshall. vice president of the san francisco alliance of black school educators and a friend of third baptist church. many people think i'm a member there because i'm there so often. i'm here to support reverend brown and the third baptist membership that you do not change that this historical landmark and keeping the parking the way it is. parking is a dire need in san francisco as you well know, and also affordable housing. i don't think not one of those units will be for an educator here in san francisco unified school district, any educator in the district. we are all being priced out. we beg you to keep the parking the way it is, honor the historical landmark of third baptist church and when you do affordable housing, if you don't have one educator in the building it's

>> commissioner wolfram: that will work. first of all, opening comments, i'm very thankful to the city and jcdecaux for organizing this competition. we're thrilled to see the design thinking that's gun to date. i think it's been a really great process that you have taken so seriously. commissioner johnck. yoip>> justin: -->> commissioner johnck: i am excited to have this discussion. i want to thank you for your efforts and i think it's been a success story. i remember the brouhaha over the idea of having public toilets on the street. and i will say -- and this leads to my question and my interest in durability. looking at the aesthetics and the design features, that's certainly of interest, but i'm interested in the durability and the material aspect of it, of the selection. and this leads me to, as i say, the successful continuance of the toilets and the kiosks on the streets. and i guess my question -- my first question is, i haven't seen any graffiti or any exterior damage to the assemblage. [inaudible] >> jcdecaux mainta

thank you very much. >> president wolfram: thank you. any other member of the public wish to speak to this matter? >> good afternoon, my name is stephanie la comebra, one of the tenants of 1100 fulton street. lived there the past ten years and i tried to submit comments via email, i think i may have sent it to the prior commissioners, so i don't know if it made the 5:00 p.m. cutoff deadline last night. i'm happy to reiterate them here if that's necessary. but i did email them to everyone. so i'll let you -- >> go ahead and make your comments now. >> i wrote to oppose the proposed changes because they are inconsistent with the architectural and the character of the alamo square district, and what the district was create today prevent. first, proposed changes strip all wood from fronting from the street level apart from small window frames. and as noted in the original documents, establishing the district "the materials unite the district. wood is nearly universal as structure and material." at ground level, masonry typically provides foun

matsuda, hyland, and wolfram, so moved, commissioners, passes unanimously, 7-0. places us on item 5. commission comments and questions. >> president wolfram: commissioner pearlman. >> commissioner pearlman: i have to disclose i'm working on a problem next to 30 otis, i'll have to recuse myself for that item. >> did you talk to the city attorney? >> commissioner pearlman: i did. i've been in touch with the owners, working on foundation work, i mean, there's a lot of interaction with their project. she suggested i recuse myself. >> ok. commissioner hyland. >> vice president hyland: question for mr. fry. we got notice that comments, or the responses to comments for 450 o'farrell were published, i guess. two questions for you. one, what's the next step on that project? and in reviewing the comments, seems the preferred project is not the proposed project. what does that mean as far as the entitlements on it? >> i have not reviewed that document but i will have to review that before i can answer what that means for the hearing. my understanding, it is scheduled for he

wolfram all said. we should be looking at $50 million of support for this, not even $20. the idea that we would be looking at cutting the $20 to $15 is rather appalling. you know, we've had these thing go from the recommendation of 15 to a first estimate of 30 that would be budgeted to 20. and now we're talking about cutting it further. our resources are absolutely critical and it indisputably is the most key historic public resource in the district. we need this for our residents and for tourism. it's not a key tourist zone. i'm reminded that the national trust will be out here. not only is this an endangered resource, but they're meeting here for the first time in 20 years. if we do another cut to this, my message to them is that san francisco really doesn't support its historic resources. please don't let this happen. i would like to present a recommendation that we are standing behind our most important resources. thank you. >> good afternoon. cynthia gomez, local 2. you heard only a few items before and i will keep my remarks brief because i know that i'm still getti

anita diaz, jim warshel, cynthia gomez, anthony vercamp, mike buehler, andrew wolfram, cindy heightsman, jonathan haber, and susan millhouse. >> thank you to the committee. i'm anita denz, d-e-n-z. i'm here to

. >> commissioner wolfram: before we start, welcome to the civic design committee. >> good afternoon.he item before you is review and comment for the replacement of public toilets and kiosks in the public right-of-way and lots on rec and park department. the project proposes to remove and replace 25 public toilets and 114 kiosks located throughout san francisco. out of the total, six public toilets and 34 kiosks are within the boundaries of article 10 and 11 landmarks, landmark districts, and conversation districts, as outlined in your packet. the previous design was reviewed and approved by the arts commission on november 6, 2017. at its december 6, 2017, meeting, architect ual review provided comments. meeting notes are in your packets the a.r.c. identified three issues for the project to address. form and masting, contextural relationship and civic center, coit tower and washington square park. following the public hearing, the proposal was redesigned. the redesign presented today was selected through an invite-only competition, which the project sponsor will explain in a more deta

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