[laughter] >> commissioner wolfram: thank you. very helpful. >> commissioner woolford: last week, commissioner schnair and i met with you for an informal. and it appears that there may be detailed differences between what you shared with us last week and what we are looking at today and can you explain those and why we're seeing a change? a couple of for examples. in the single-unit toilet, which is essentially, a double camber cylinder with a concave web that intercepts them, it appeared that last week it was a deeper concave section and it's shallower now. and some of the details on the kiosks appear slightly different. and we would like to understand the changes. >> sure. the toilet kiosk has not changed. it's the exact, same shape we had before. it might be the appearance of the renderings, but it's the exact, same shape. the kiosks, we have changed, and we're searching for the right dimensions and curvature. so while one of the three elements looks similar to what we showed you, we're working through that. and it basically re

and i agree with commissioner wolfram, with the view from above. if we don't have green roofs, especially on market street, that surface needs to be treated so it doesn't look like a mechanical skylight well. so that would be important. and lastly, keeping it simple, keeping it to a sculptural form. and not mucking it up with amenities around ground floor benches. i think you are complicating the solution. good job. >> commissioner wolfram: thank you. any comments on this side? okay. so -- any comments on this side? >> commissioner johnck: i want to add to the discussion about the standard 9 and the relationship to our mission here and i do think that the design and, of course, our photo here, when i first saw it without thinking about anything else i did like it, i said, this works for our standard 9 interpretation. and being more modern in contrast. so i generally like that approach. i did want to say to echo more about the public interpretation or interactivity of the toilets and the kiosk. i see there is staff from the port here. when we get to

>> commissioner wolfram: that will work. first of all, opening comments, i'm very thankful to the city and jcdecaux for organizing this competition. we're thrilled to see the design thinking that's gun to date. i think it's been a really great process that you have taken so seriously. commissioner johnck. yoip>> justin: -->> commissioner johnck: i am excited to have this discussion. i want to thank you for your efforts and i think it's been a success story. i remember the brouhaha over the idea of having public toilets on the street. and i will say -- and this leads to my question and my interest in durability. looking at the aesthetics and the design features, that's certainly of interest, but i'm interested in the durability and the material aspect of it, of the selection. and this leads me to, as i say, the successful continuance of the toilets and the kiosks on the streets. and i guess my question -- my first question is, i haven't seen any graffiti or any exterior damage to the assemblage. [inaudible] >> jcdecaux mainta

. >> and wolfram. it places under your regular item for calender. 495 gary street.s a major permit to alter. >> good afternoon, commissioners. rebeca, planning staff. before you is a request for a major permit to alter for exterior alterations for 495 gary street. on the is the east corner of gary and taylor street. the property is within the article 11 market mason conservation district. 495 gary street, known as the cliff hotel was constructed in 1913 and received major addition and renovations in 1926. the proposed scope of work is the construction of a new one-storey rooftop addition on the lower roof of the subject property. in the footprint of an existing non historic temporary tent structure on the roof. the addition will be adjacent to the historic cliff residents rooftop at the subject property. the additional has stucco, plum multi lie window and a pvc roofing. staff finds the proposed work condition is recommended. will be in conformance of article # 11 and secretary of the interior standards for rehabilitation. the proposed rooftop will only be visible f